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Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by Macha »

0x0nyandesu wrote: post #65
Accacin wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of games I play work with Proton, or Lutris, which is great most of the time. However, it's the small amount of time when something stops working or needs small config tweaks that really annoy me, as they cut into my gaming time. Also, setting up games can be a little bit of a faff. For example, wanting to play FFXIV, well, nothing worked at all. I had to go into the config file and skip the cutscene, and also ch…

Setting up FFXIV parser is also annoying on Linux

ACT works by poking around in the memory of the ffxiv process, I imagine it's tricky for the same reason anti cheat is.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by peakaboo »

foxhill wrote: post #14

i’ve been using linux as my daily driver for just over a year. steam on linux has been great, and proton (wine) has been indispensable. big title games i’ve played with _no_ issues at all: * Cyberpunk 2077 (ok that has issues, but it has the same issues for windows users..) * Dying Light * Titanfall * The Division along with _many_ other indie/small games. honestly the only thing left is titles that include invasive…

> restarts their machine on a whim for updates

That's the thing, it's not their machine if they are running Windows on it. It's Microsofts. They can even wake up your machine to apply updates whenever they want.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by gpderetta »

Zhyl wrote: post #74

A headline in Linux gaming circles that hasn't hit the wider circuit yet (probably because it hasn't actually been delivered yet) is that Valve are working with Battleye and EAC to get anti-cheat working on Proton for the release of the steam deck. If this happens it will be, without exaggeration, the greatest thing to ever happen to Linux gaming. I'm not expecting a massive increase overnight, but it should mean tha…

My brother wanted to play CoD Warzone with me and of course it doesn't work with Proton. After attempting and failing to dual boot into Windows (how hard could it be to create a bootable Windows installation usb key?), yesterday I decided to try vfio. It actually was quite straightforward and way simpler than one would expect from the very intimidating archlinux wiki page. I spent more time getting a nice grub vfio menu entry than actually setting up the VM.

Of course now I expect I'll be eventually banned for running under a VM.

Proton support for anti-cheats can't come soon enough.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by _y5hn »

peakaboo wrote: post #82
foxhill wrote: post #14

i’ve been using linux as my daily driver for just over a year. steam on linux has been great, and proton (wine) has been indispensable. big title games i’ve played with _no_ issues at all: * Cyberpunk 2077 (ok that has issues, but it has the same issues for windows users..) * Dying Light * Titanfall * The Division along with _many_ other indie/small games. honestly the only thing left is titles that include invasive…

> restarts their machine on a whim for updates That's the thing, it's not their machine if they are running Windows on it. It's Microsofts. They can even wake up your machine to apply updates whenever they want.

For hardcore gamers, the added stability of Linux and choosing when to update, could be a big plus. Provided, hardware compatibility (there's always a caveat!).

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by gpderetta »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #55
chevill wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a similar experience. I would love to stop using Windows but I have found that ProtonDB wildly exagerrates the compatibility of games. I had game breaking issues with 50% or more of "gold" rated titles and even some with a "platinum" rating.

ProtonDB is driven by reports/feedback from individual users, right? Did you submit your experience so that the ratings are more accurate?

ProtonDB tells you that someone, somewhere at some point managed to get it working. It doesn't directly help you, but knowing it can be done can be an incentive to experiment instead of giving up.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by trulyrandom »

gpderetta wrote: post #83
Zhyl wrote: post #74

A headline in Linux gaming circles that hasn't hit the wider circuit yet (probably because it hasn't actually been delivered yet) is that Valve are working with Battleye and EAC to get anti-cheat working on Proton for the release of the steam deck. If this happens it will be, without exaggeration, the greatest thing to ever happen to Linux gaming. I'm not expecting a massive increase overnight, but it should mean tha…

My brother wanted to play CoD Warzone with me and of course it doesn't work with Proton. After attempting and failing to dual boot into Windows (how hard could it be to create a bootable Windows installation usb key?), yesterday I decided to try vfio. It actually was quite straightforward and way simpler than one would expect from the very intimidating archlinux wiki page. I spent more time getting a nice grub vfio m…

I don't think Activision bans VM players. I've been playing Warzone in a VM since it was released without issues.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by Macha »

foxhill wrote: post #14

i’ve been using linux as my daily driver for just over a year. steam on linux has been great, and proton (wine) has been indispensable. big title games i’ve played with _no_ issues at all: * Cyberpunk 2077 (ok that has issues, but it has the same issues for windows users..) * Dying Light * Titanfall * The Division along with _many_ other indie/small games. honestly the only thing left is titles that include invasive…

The Outer Worlds is one of the big AAA titles I ended up playing on Linux. I've historically played a lot of them on Windows out of pessimism but The Other Worlds was dying in the opening cutscene on Windows for no explicable reason so I gave it a go on Linux and so far it's worked perfectly.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by yxhuvud »

lucian1900 wrote: post #10
xxs wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows has no epoll(), but of course that doesn't matter for games.

Windows has completion ports (IOCP), which are much better. At least finally Linux is also getting completion based IO with io_uring.

Seems windows is getting ring buffers based io too, eventually: https://windows-internals.com/i-o-rings-when-one-i-o-operati...

Not identical to io_uring, but close enough that porting between them will probably be quite simple.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by garou »

Zhyl wrote: post #74

A headline in Linux gaming circles that hasn't hit the wider circuit yet (probably because it hasn't actually been delivered yet) is that Valve are working with Battleye and EAC to get anti-cheat working on Proton for the release of the steam deck. If this happens it will be, without exaggeration, the greatest thing to ever happen to Linux gaming. I'm not expecting a massive increase overnight, but it should mean tha…

I'm only waiting for it to nuke out my windows install.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

josefx wrote: post #35
deltasixeight wrote: post #19

Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

> Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. I have seen similar on Windows. For example when Bioshock Remastered Freezes there is no way to exit it, windows still responds, but there is no way to close the game because everything you open is hidden by it. Also the amount of Graphical glitches I encountered in Skyrim is just hilarious. DotA 2 seems to sometimes glitch out when you hit alt ta…

> I have seen similar on Windows.

Sure, but Windows is supported, so instead of going to a forum and being unhelpfully told to try a different distro, you can take up your issue with the developer and they're much more likely to pay attention. Granted, some of them still have shitty support, but you're a lot less likely to be dismissed out of hand.

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