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Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#41
These types of articles with a list of problems and no solutions are always a bore to read. Many of them don't really appear to be a problem with lists at all.

"I bought this hammer the other day. Every time I hammer a nail in, the hammer doesn't vibrate and play a tune to give me a sense of accomplishment. What gives?"

Has anyone considered that if you're looking to external means to feel a sense of accomplishment, you're relying on meaningless short-term gratification?

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#42
> Up until the last week I thought the problem was in myself (you probably think so too). After all, David Allen seems to have figured this shit out.

It's worth pointing out that David Allen is very outspoken on his position that you should NOT use a todo list. He writes it out clearly in his book. This is probably the most common misconception about GTD. I've even heard people say they gave up on GTD because todo lists don't work for them. Okay...

I use a task manager but I don't have a todo list. The standard usage of a todo list, where you dump any task that may or may not be worth doing at some point, is at best a distraction from real project management. To get things done, you have to decide on the one or few things you should be working on at a point in time. A todo list doesn't help with that.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#43
post #38

I’ve found the trouble with Todo lists is that you fill them up and then start ignoring them as they are overwhelming. I’ve recently found Beeminder’s GTBee todo list app a good help as it forces you to enter a due date and fines you at least $5 if you don’t complete the task on the due date. That makes me highly motivated to keep checking the list and completing tasks.

wait, what - you'd actually be paying somebody to tell you you've failed...?

Yeah. Not wanting to pay them motivates me to not fail.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#45
post #31

#1 has been debunked[0], in 2016 of all times. I wonder how many more years we'll have to go before people stop saying willpower is a finite resource. [0]: https://elemental.medium.com/dont-worry-you-can-t-deplete-yo...

The original "science" is hard to accept & so is the rebuttal. In cases like these I defer to anecdata and that tells me what you'd call my willpower is finite.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#46
I love workflowy for keeping organised, because zooming in and out is fantastic for focus. Dragging tasks up and down lets me prioritize.

Managing my todo list also organises my brain and lets me relax knowing I won't forget things.

Working just fine for me and I'm not sure I would want a bunch of 'smart' features being all clippy on me.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#47
post #31

#1 has been debunked[0], in 2016 of all times. I wonder how many more years we'll have to go before people stop saying willpower is a finite resource. [0]: https://elemental.medium.com/dont-worry-you-can-t-deplete-yo...

I like to believe that willpower is like a muscle - it takes work to build it up, and you need to maintain it. Though unlike the human body's limitations, I agree that it can be nearly unlimited.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#48
post #29
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are solutions, but whether or not they are the same for a large enough market is hard to tell. I use a leaky bucket metaphor in my todo lists... if a given task sits on a list for too long, then it should more or less fall off. It wasn't as important as you thought. But this is anathema to how most of these systems work.

I do: punt, punt, punt, dead.

When I read the article at first it resonated with me, but your solution solves it, just delete them. So I better add a task to my TODO to delete tasks once a month.

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#49
We’re working on an app that’s designed for recurring/daily todo lists, allows you to attach rewards (cash payout, gift card, crypto, …) and providing context/guidance. It already has a Zapier integration, native apps for iOS/Android and a web version which features 100% feature/ux parity. It’s 100% cloud/online-based right now though. We’re still working towards our MVP, but happy to send out invites to everyone signing up in the next few hours: https://questmate.com

Re: Todo apps are meant for robots

#50
It’s just bizarre that this post would warrant discussion. It should be obvious that todo apps are widely enjoyed by people as part of their way of working. This just comes off as a close minded, arbitrary view.
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