Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

latimes.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 596 posts

Re: Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

#21

Post by MattGaiser »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #10

My personal experience has been quite different. I got a bit burned out on my job and sent in my resume to 10 new places. All remote, some a bit of a stretch, others I was well qualified for. (Data science management and senior DS IC, respectively). I got zero hits. Not a single phone screen. Honestly I was pretty lazy about it, and didn't write cover letters or anything. That might be a contributing factor. That, or…

Maybe not all tech is benefiting as evenly? My company is mostly data science. We don't seen to have an issue filling those spots. Software engineering job postings have been open for months and as far as I know, nobody has been interviewed.

Re: Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

#23

Post by ianai »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #10

My personal experience has been quite different. I got a bit burned out on my job and sent in my resume to 10 new places. All remote, some a bit of a stretch, others I was well qualified for. (Data science management and senior DS IC, respectively). I got zero hits. Not a single phone screen. Honestly I was pretty lazy about it, and didn't write cover letters or anything. That might be a contributing factor. That, or…

If someone’s going to hire you remote shouldn’t you demonstrate your ability to communicate well in text and elaborate on what makes you a good choice in a well written, directed cover letter?

Re: Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

#25

Post by ipsocannibal »

kilroy123 wrote: post #12
derwiki wrote: post #2

> But now, these technical interviews are often being waived Huh? First I’ve heard of that

I got a new job about ~5 months ago and this was not my experience at all. It was leetcoding questions for days. If you didn't ace it, you'd get ghosted quickly. One place, I did 3 rounds of interviews, an all day take home assignment. I still got ghosted! So I call BS on this quote as well.

Same here, applied to a medium sized company and got the standard hackerrank garbage test totally unrelated to the position right off the bat. At least now I know who I don't want to work for.

Re: Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

#26

Post by ml_giant »

derwiki wrote: post #2

> But now, these technical interviews are often being waived Huh? First I’ve heard of that

I recently went through the hiring process for a few companies and while most of them required several technical interviews, one of them never once had me do a coding test. I essentially kept going through the process just to see if they would make me an offer after three conversations (They eventually did make an offer).

Re: Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

#27

Post by kilroy123 »

vbtemp wrote: post #20
kilroy123 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got a new job about ~5 months ago and this was not my experience at all. It was leetcoding questions for days. If you didn't ace it, you'd get ghosted quickly. One place, I did 3 rounds of interviews, an all day take home assignment. I still got ghosted! So I call BS on this quote as well.

Was this a FAANG or FAANG-like company where it's likely you'd have TC of $350K plus, or a sub-FAANG company where your TC would likely be in the $100-200K range?

Lol not at all. It was regular run of the mill startups and small companies. TC like ~$150k-180.

Re: Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

#28

Post by chrisseaton »

chronic2703 wrote: post #14
rejectedandsad wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have FAANG on my resume and this is definitely not the case lol. Then again, it’s Amazon which most people regard to have the dumbest engineers so…

Amazon is absolutely a red flag on the resume. Many hiring managers (like myself) do not want to import the toxic, backstabbing, PIP culture from Amazon into our org. Also I’ve noticed the quality of Amazon engineers is lower, on average, compared to Google, ByteDance, FB, Stripe, etc. My advice is to work somewhere not-Amazon for a year or two. Then you’ll get more bites.

> the toxic, backstabbing, PIP culture from Amazon into our org

I don't think it's fair to blame this culture on individual line engineers.

Re: Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

#29

Post by lumost »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #10

My personal experience has been quite different. I got a bit burned out on my job and sent in my resume to 10 new places. All remote, some a bit of a stretch, others I was well qualified for. (Data science management and senior DS IC, respectively). I got zero hits. Not a single phone screen. Honestly I was pretty lazy about it, and didn't write cover letters or anything. That might be a contributing factor. That, or…

There could be a couple factors here. The first is that recruiting at most companies prefers to reach out to candidates then the other way around. My suspicion has been that they get inundated with unqualified resumes via direct applications and just don't want to spend the time looking through it. You should try going back through linkedin over the last 6 months and messaging recruiters who did cold outreach or directly ping a recruiter at a company you want to work for.

The other area is that DS means something a bit different at each company you could work for. Some may want SQL experts, others want SWE's with some ML and still others expect 100% modeling all the time. You may get filtered out if you don't have the appropriate buzzwords/skills listed on your resume e.g. AWS, BigQuery, Java, python, Tensorflow etc.

Re: Employers bow to tech workers in hottest job market since the dot-com era

#30

Post by toomuchtodo »

throwawaysleep wrote: post #19
dbish wrote: post #4

Even if you think you’re well paid, now is the time to look around. I’ve had a lot of friends, mentees, and coworkers get huge bumps on total compensation even as relatively senior engineers and managers. Pay is jumping and companies aren’t doing a great job keeping that up for their people who have been around for a few years. As an employer, that should be the top worry, keep comp up, don’t lose your people because…

For those of you who have done this, how do you maximise your compensation? Tips appreciated.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25092246
Post reply on HN