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How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by dkersten »

praptak wrote: post #65
dkersten wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely the modern way to sell your soul online is through NFTs?

Not necessarily. It is speculated that the Devil can solve any mathematical problem and thus human crypto is useless to him, as he can just reverse all hashes, compute the discrete logarithms and factor arbitrarily large numbers. So an NFT (or any other cryptographic artifact) is rather something that Satan can offer you for your soul.

I meant more human-to-human selling of your soul, as an alternative to selling on ebay. Doesn't even require you to believe in the supernatural.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by dkersten »

vmception wrote: post #157
dkersten wrote: post #43

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Surely the modern way to sell your soul online is through NFTs?

The NFT standards need to be updated to include a hook that ensures royalties go to the creator upon transfer. Sadly this is currently impossible as the NFT doesn't store the amount of value it was traded for within it. But it could. For now, royalties only occur on third party platforms of NFTs.

Seems that they're doing just what they were intended to: proving ownership, nothing more.

Having said that, yes, I think building a concept of royalties in would have been a good idea.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by imjustsaying »

yoloyoloyoloa wrote: post #92

Please whatever you do, dont mess with this stuff. Ive really had interactions of this kind and I can tell you it is not fun, you will not be happy or at peace. Satan is a liar,murderer and deceiver. Jesus came to save you and even if you have "sold" your soul to satan then just know that Jesus defeated satan on the cross and paid for your soul with his blood.

Logged on just to upvote this.

Lest one person out of a thousand that read this actually try the things mentioned in the article, I'd like to point out that the topics in the article such as summoning demons and dabbling in magic is ultimately not desirable.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by normac2 »

zozbot234 wrote: post #170
normac2 wrote: post #155

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It sounds like you're referring to "spiritual plane" as something that is a distinct metaphysical entity that exists alongside what would be normally be seen as the natural world. (In this case I mean "metaphysical" in the philosophical sense.) I realize that "natural world" is a fraught concept in itself, but please take me in a common sense reading; basically what would be seen as natural in everyday conversation o…

"Metaphysical" is a confused word. You don't have to include spiritual stuff in your model of the world (there's plenty of people who don't, and this doesn't seem to stop them from leading outwardly fulfilling lives!) but if you do, you're going to see it as no less "natural" than anything you'd include in your 'common sense natural world as depicted in everyday conversation or in a movie/book'. It's literally someth…

Fair enough. Then would you say the spiritual plane that can be accessed or interacted with via these rituals, couldn't be fully described under the laws of physics as we currently know them?

(Obviously almost any phenomenon can't be fully described by the laws of physics in the sense that it's too complex to account for the location and state of every elementary particle involved. But I mean in the sense of introducing entirely new laws, or instances where the existing ones are overridden.)

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by whoaisme »

Lammy wrote: post #137
_game_of_life wrote: post #110

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Yeah, what the actual fuck. This really makes me question the audience on this site... Does anyone have any alternatives to hacker news? Preferably ones with more skeptics than there are occultist and "demonologist" morons? Fucking bizarre.

“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”

Funny how the pretentious dorks that spam this never seem to apply the quote to itself. I mean do educated people have to entertain thoughts of pedophilia without accepting it? Idiot.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by j_crick »

neither_color wrote: post #18

I will never get a more relevant chance to bring this up, so has anyone heard of Napoleon Hill’s(Think and Grow Rich) other book? It’s called Outwitting the Devil, where he interviews the devil. He refused to publish it during his lifetime, and his estate also put off publishing it for decades because it contains strongs critiques of the educational system, the government, and the church as being tools of the ‘devil’…

The actual interview text keeps hammering down on the same talking points so repetitively and unimaginatively, that it quickly becomes hard to get past first couple of pages. If a bit of information can be briefly, just for the sake of argument, defined as a difference that makes a difference, the book you mention makes a few starting laps and then halts at making a difference in its over-arching narrative with a remarkable braking force.

In other words, aside from “think for yourself” message, (sadly) it’s a classic example of a bad “business” book, annotations included. Mystery and woo-woo are also present, so yeah, there’s that.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by highspeedbus »

praptak wrote: post #65
dkersten wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely the modern way to sell your soul online is through NFTs?

Not necessarily. It is speculated that the Devil can solve any mathematical problem and thus human crypto is useless to him, as he can just reverse all hashes, compute the discrete logarithms and factor arbitrarily large numbers. So an NFT (or any other cryptographic artifact) is rather something that Satan can offer you for your soul.

That's a running thing in my mind for years. The devil can do math. So It's an incredible lost opportunity when people are being possessed and we dont go and ask them some clever questions.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by highspeedbus »

alangibson wrote: post #73
praptak wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily. It is speculated that the Devil can solve any mathematical problem and thus human crypto is useless to him, as he can just reverse all hashes, compute the discrete logarithms and factor arbitrarily large numbers. So an NFT (or any other cryptographic artifact) is rather something that Satan can offer you for your soul.

That's not the way math works. G-d himself can't reverse a hash. Before you go invoking the "miracle" loophole, consider that miracles are logically impossible. If an impossible thing happens, then it was not in fact impossible. We just didn't understand the rules.

God is supernatural by definition. Anything we can compute, analyze and give logical meaning is just regular science.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by korethr »

The passage about following the contracts to the letter and thus being able to get out of those contracts with a bit of cleverness reminds me of a similar principle in stores about faeries -- that faeries will follow their bargains with mortals to the letter. In faerie stories, this is what makes deals with faeries so risky, especially with the more malevolent ones; you never know just how your words will be twisted against your intentions and desires.

I wonder how much of the to-the-letter aspect of demonic contracts borrows from the older European folk stories of faeries, or whether it is the opposite -- the to-the-letter aspect of deals with faeries being a medieval Christian projection upon those stories.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by samatman »

normac2 wrote: post #135
samatman wrote: post #132

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Actually yes. There is an historical body of literature on various kinds of summoning magic, starting with the Picatrix. Those particular sigils are from the Lemegeton, also known as the Lesser Key of Solomon. Which verifiably predates the neopagans. The general idea of constraining the demon by writing its sigil and summoning it has existed for a long time, although in the Lesser Key (and most sources afaik) the dem…

> I can't recommend doing any of these things, but if someone wants to, I highly suggest not naively following the directions of a satirical blogpost. Very interesting stuff. Regarding this part, are you saying that that the supernatural claims behind these rituals are real in some literal sense, or that they have psychological effects that might not be desirable?

I'm going to punt on the first half, the second is emphatically true. Or the psychological effects could be desirable.

No one should recommend ceremonial magic and occult study, in my opinion. Anyone who 'should' be going down the rabbit hole can't be dissuaded.

But if you must, start with something like Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson. Don't just pull out the Goetia and start summoning demons. Reality may or may not be mutable, but our perception of it certainly is. Would you really pick that as a first experiment?

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