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Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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History is written by the winners. The right side is the one they write for themselves. So just always be on the side that is in the majority and has all of the power. Ezpz

Kinda hard not to be Jewish during 1930s Germany when you're a Jew...

Hard but not impossible. Einstein achieved that, as did the other Jewish emigrants from 1930's Germany.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

People hear the word "conspiracy" and are already on the opposite side before hearing any arguments. It's like they're terrified of having the wrong thoughts. Don't worry, we haven't reached the mind reading flavor of conspiratorial dystopia yet.

I agree with your first sentence at least. Conspiracies -- from what led to Jan. 6th to Watergate to John Brown's Raid to the XYZ affair -- absolutely exist. But the word has been so completely conflated with absurd, even insane ideas, that to talk of conspiracy immediately puts the accuser at a serious rhetorical disadvantage.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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This doesn't seem to pass the sniff test for me. The six they list doesn't include YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok etc where a huge amount of media is consumed. And would they count YouTube as "one" outlet? I would argue I have greater choice of amongst YouTube creators than I ever did compared to, say ABC, in 1983. The analysis also seems flawed in that they evaluate movies based on box office sales. Which excl…

YouTube/IG/etc are not media creators per se, just aggregators. Thus, not including them on that list makes perfect sense to me.

They are not just aggregators, but also publishers. They ban/censor certain content, they create algorithms to shape the exposure of information, they control monetization, etc. they have far more influence on “American media” than the six listed here.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

>We should really look at what these companies are pushing.

They're pushing their bottom line, same as ever, but now with a legitimating rhetoric appropriated from humanities academia, the nonprofit and advocacy/NGO sector, and various protest movements.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Is hackernews owned by any one these?

HN is a leftist organ at this point, based on both the posts and downvotes in the past year.

I've been called brave just for using the word "Republican" in a post. We only have 2 national parties, guys.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

People hear the word "conspiracy" and are already on the opposite side before hearing any arguments. It's like they're terrified of having the wrong thoughts. Don't worry, we haven't reached the mind reading flavor of conspiratorial dystopia yet.

I'm not terrified of having "wrong thoughts", but I do think conspiracy theorizing is dumb because no conspiracy theorist seems able to believe just one conspiracy. Oh, you think COVID was a lab leak, and that global warming is fake? What do you think about the moon landing? Is the government controlled by the Jews or the lizardmen? Why don't you (and this is a purely rhetorical "you") seem to have any limits to your credulity, whatsoever? Surely some things are too outrageous to be a priori likely and require specific evidence!

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Which is why they "moderate the content on the platform", right? People get banned for posting their political opinions but media companies

They moderate their content because if they don't, an angry mob will demand that companies pull ads from the platforms. Ironically, by prioritizing revenue over an agenda, it's actually the most democratic form of censorship.

Censorship based on how much money different groups spend and gets outraged is not very democratic compared to censorship based on democratic votes. And censorship based on democratic votes is seen as bad, what big corps do now is even worse.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

Or perhaps educate people about how to consume information.

I don't think it matters how educated I am if everything available comes from one of six sources. I know I'm being propagandized; I've just learned I can't necessarily check society's "official" story on certain things. I still see that when the news media covers an issue regarding which I am personally a knowledgeable expert, they are often not just getting it wrong on the mere facts but throwing in ideological slants I would rarely agree with.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Long time employee of one of those companies, here. To believe that there is some dictate about how a story is covered or why that comes from the top is to believe that we are way more organized than reality. Yes, some corporate-synergy exists to cross-promote, especially on morning shows, but when it comes to news, we are usually pushing so close to deadline there's no way to even allow for corporate control. That s…

"I'm not saying you're self-censoring; I'm sure you believe everything you're saying. What I'm saying is that if you believed something different you wouldn't be sitting where you're sitting."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLcpcytUnWU

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

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Lol hardly. The problem is no one controls the media so it can get very random. The crazy crap people believe isn’t coming from “corporate” media. You think they are writing about Qanon?

The crazy shit people believe from corporate media isn't called crazy since so many believe them. And the reason so many believe them is because all corporate media spreads it.

Also I am significantly more afraid of crazy shit that people don't call crazy than crazy shit everyone calls crazy.

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