Live data from Hacker News

Six corporations control 90% of America media

techstartups.com

81–90 of 183 posts

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#81
Blame Sean Fanning for causing software companies to incur liability for misuse of peer to peer technology at a rather pivotal point in the development of the Internet. If not for those court rulings, there would have been background info servers running on everyone’s home router long ago. (Ask me how I know )

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#82

Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

> Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillance distopia are conspiracy theorists pushing misinformation now.

It’s as if the X-Files never ended and is still relevant. So many people, when grappling with why things are the way they are, simply reach in the toolbox for the easy Cynicism and Conspiracy tools. It’s always “shadowy elite” in media, in tech companies, in government, conspiring to make us all buy SUVs because… uh…, well they are conspiring to make everyone wear masks so they can… uhh… do something. No, actually the elites are conspiring to bring on climate change and space travel so they can build their own Elysium space station and then… um… profit in some way we can’t figure out yet.

That’s the great thing about conspiracy theories: you can just spout the first few steps and fail to explain the end game because there’s always another conspiracy theorist building on it and imagining what the next steps might be.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#83

Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

I love this post. Just the perfect amount of sarcasm to force readers to think for themselves.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#85
post #52

Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

what does that even mean? There is a name for government-corporate collaboration. Even if you think it's going well "for now", it probably isn't.

Governments and corporations always cooperate. It's the nature of any nation's regulatory and legal order. It's more nuanced than that.

What we want to look out for is not corporate cooperation with government, which is natural and proper. Rather we need to be on guard for corporate control of government, and I think America with it's energy, media and banking firms comes close to crossing the line. That line between corporates cooperating in a natural and necessary regulatory order on the one side, and corporates controlling the government's regulatory and legal order.

You may even be able to argue that the line was crossed a while ago. There's a reason we have everything from private prisons, to corporates that are "too big to fail", to wars for oil, to regulatory bodies so corrupted that our word can no longer be safely relied upon to certify an airliner.

My own opinion is we're holding the line in some places, and in others, clearly the dam has already broken.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#86

Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

> Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillance distopia are conspiracy theorists pushing misinformation now. It’s as if the X-Files never ended and is still relevant. So many people, when grappling with why things are the way they are, simply reach in the toolbox for the easy Cynicism and Conspiracy tools. It’s alwa…

I think you didn't read all of gp's post.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#87
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what does that even mean? There is a name for government-corporate collaboration. Even if you think it's going well "for now", it probably isn't.

History is written by the winners. The right side is the one they write for themselves. So just always be on the side that is in the majority and has all of the power. Ezpz

>So just always be on the side that is in the majority and has all of the power

Until you find yourselves on the other side, by definition..

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#88
post #66

This doesn't seem to pass the sniff test for me. The six they list doesn't include YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok etc where a huge amount of media is consumed. And would they count YouTube as "one" outlet? I would argue I have greater choice of amongst YouTube creators than I ever did compared to, say ABC, in 1983. The analysis also seems flawed in that they evaluate movies based on box office sales. Which excl…

They also don't include The New York Times, iHeartRadio, or Twitter. But sure, if you ignore everyone else, 6 companies control everything.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#89

Should we be concerned about them using their media properties to push narratives designed to consolidate their influence, or ask whether some of the things we believe might be artifacts of that influence, or maybe what the sources and motives of those narratives might be? Kidding. This isn't the 90's. The only people who worry about an axis of collaboration between corporations and government to create a surveillanc…

People hear the word "conspiracy" and are already on the opposite side before hearing any arguments. It's like they're terrified of having the wrong thoughts. Don't worry, we haven't reached the mind reading flavor of conspiratorial dystopia yet.

Re: Six corporations control 90% of America media

#90
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also sloppy to have written "the band" here when in fact no band has been introduced.

Was this article generated by AI?

Yeah, that was my first thought, too. It certainly makes me wonder about the rest of the article. I did a quick search to see if there was any Jim Morrison-related news from 2018, but other than some other people with the same name dying, there wasn’t anything. Even that movie with Val Kilmer was like 20-30 years ago. Very bizarre.
Post reply on HN