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The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU

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Re: The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU

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Maybe, just maybe it also includes the cost of actually administering it by a professional and? Scotty aint gonna beam it into ya… So once it’s negotiated down to $800 - it’s mostly labor of people involved in the process of taking it from pharmacy all the way inside you

>Maybe, just maybe it also includes the cost of actually administering it by a professional Nope. That's a separate line item. Appreciate the weird sarcasm though, as if I thought it would be magically administered for free? > resp tx initial or subsequent qty 33@$318 total $ 10,494 (note: "tx" == therapy) Also, 3ml takes 5 to 15 minutes to administer. So, even if I'm generous, that respiratory therapist costs $1272/…

Yeah, it was like 1-5 minute prep, leave the room as it's being administered, and then check back later

Re: The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU

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https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/03/nhs-england-strikes-deal-... That's available too.

I acknowledged this: > delayed substantially in Europe In the meantime, between when FDA approved v NHS, children became debilitated.

Fair dos. I haven't looked but is it possible there are some vice-versa examples?

Anyway. At least with the NHS you won't be expected to pay the millions per dose fees, via insurance or other means.

Re: The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU

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But in the case of the US, we pay for healthcare in our taxes, pay again as companies, and again pay co-pays as individuals.

I think I'd find the uncertainty that seem inherent in your system completely terrifying - its bad enough being sick but then to not know what that would cost seems crazy. I can't help thinking of the book title by Aneurin Bevan, founder of the UK NHS: "In Place of Fear" : https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2042463.In_Place_of_Fear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneurin_Bevan

Yes, the uncertainty is by far the worst part. I personally won't seek medical help unless I am completely sure I have a problem I can't handle myself (which will likely get me killed eventually, but at least my family will be able to pay for the funeral). A large part of that is not having any way to pre-budget the cost. If I don't know for sure I have a problem I can't deal with, I could go through thousands of dollars worth of testing only to find that it's acid reflux. And at that point the reflux would become worse because I'll develop ulcers just thinking of the debt.

Re: The cost of two weeks in an pediatric/infant ICU

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Everything was not free, you just didn't pay directly for it while you were at the hospital. I don't understand why the word free always gets thrown around for country's with socialized medicine. You are paying for it.

Most roads in the USA are also "free", as are the police, etc. Healthcare elsewhere may be similar.

I've never once gone around calling police or roads free, nor have I heard anyone else do this.
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