Wow, completely agree about how the layout, and emphasis on different headlines, topics, categories, advertising etc.. are all huge indicators of society's interests and conceptions of the world. That said, I would be surprised to learn that the nyt doesn't store their front page every day into some archive? If they don't, then someone must!
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#13Wow, completely agree about how the layout, and emphasis on different headlines, topics, categories, advertising etc.. are all huge indicators of society's interests and conceptions of the world. That said, I would be surprised to learn that the nyt doesn't store their front page every day into some archive? If they don't, then someone must!
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#14Wow, completely agree about how the layout, and emphasis on different headlines, topics, categories, advertising etc.. are all huge indicators of society's interests and conceptions of the world. That said, I would be surprised to learn that the nyt doesn't store their front page every day into some archive? If they don't, then someone must!
They do.
The CMS has all the rankings. Rank meta data is stored with articles, including (if published in print) where it was in the physical paper and what editions(s).
On the web site front, there are internal process capturing the Homepage HTML and that goes back maybe 10 years at this point.
On a more public level you can still find the Homepage from a given date here:
http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/02/06/
you can extrapolate the rest:
http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2008/02/06/business/
Those would represent the last view of the day before the date rolled over in the CMS.
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#15This is based on an incorrect assumption: ... no one is storing their frontpage layout data. The Newseum has this covered for over 800 newspapers. A recent front page of the New York Times, for example: http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=NY_NY...
The NYT also stores their data... see my reply further up:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2801652
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#16Somewhat off-topic: watching the Chilean miners story in the video was heartwarming as the number rescued increased.
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#17This did well on HN a week ago too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219
Seeing so many signs in the last year that HN is formed of different overlapping audiences that visit at different times of the day. Tons of dupes lately.
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#18This did well on HN a week ago too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219 Seeing so many signs in the last year that HN is formed of different overlapping audiences that visit at different times of the day. Tons of dupes lately.
While I have also noticed many duplicate articles, one way the community could try to avoid them would be by making sure that they are posting original sources (as suggested in the official guidelines), and not random blog posts (like the post a week ago).
edit: I have just noticed http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2777508 , which AFAIK links to the same URL as this.
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#19This did well on HN a week ago too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219 Seeing so many signs in the last year that HN is formed of different overlapping audiences that visit at different times of the day. Tons of dupes lately.
While I have also noticed many duplicate articles, one way the community could try to avoid them would be by making sure that they are posting original sources (as suggested in the official guidelines), and not random blog posts (like the post a week ago). edit: I have just noticed http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2777508 , which AFAIK links to the same URL as this.
Yeah, although sometimes it's not particularly obvious. I've noticed a lot of links to a site called http://ontwik.com/ being posted in the last few months (a Google search for ontwik on news.ycombinator.com shows over 100 results). It's a site that seems to take embeddable videos from YouTube, Vimeo and the like and turn them into pages like http://ontwik.com/html5-2/html5-games-with-rob-hawkes-of-moz... .. I can see why people are linking these things up, even though it should be the original YouTube video getting the link.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Counterpoint: "news" is the lie that something important happens every day.
Depends on what you define as "important", but with 6.5 billion people on the world, there are certain to be remarkable or notable events with great regularity and frequency.
Yes, because "the news" reports equally about all events around the world... riiiiight...
News is there to advertise, plain and simple. Whether it's paid "ads" or (anti)government policy or various lobby groups. It has very little to with 'world events', and more to do with "What will get peoples' attention".