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Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by tstrimple »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #483
tstrimple wrote: post #471

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be this pervasive myth that conservatives are being censored on sites like Facebook. That's at odds with the fact that far right misinformation still dominates those websites. Just what evidence would be sufficient to convince conservatives that they aren't being unduly censored? https://www.npr.org/2021/03/06/974394783/far-right-misinform... https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/02/01/censorship-co…

I don’t believe there is anything I or anyone else could say that would change your mind. Out of curiosity, when I said "anti-war leftists" did you perceive that to mean something negative/radical about them relative to when I said "moderate Republicans"? Also, what gave you the impression that I meant one of those was getting censored more than the other?

You didn't imply one was censored more than another. You claimed it's moderate Republicans being called Nazis and throwing in the anti-war leftists as false equivalence in an attempt to sound moderate. There are very real signs of fascism growing within the Republican party. From aligning against an "other" enemy to telling people they are the only ones who can stop the onslaught to telling people to be strong in resisting the election results to passing laws in 18 states to restrict voting. Over 60% of Republicans in the House voted to overturn the results of the 2020 election and over 70% of Republicans believe the election was stolen. This is tens of millions of people deluded by an obvious con-man with no sign of sanity in sight. I think the time for "both side" and false equivalence is well past over.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by stonogo »

busymom0 wrote: post #488
raisedbyninjas wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rather than trying to tease out the explicit meaning or jokes or subtext, we could just consider the rise of bleach ingestion at the time. Responsible people with a platform speak responsibly.

He literally never talked about injecting bleach. Please stop spreading misinformation. Instead of criticizing him on important issues like not pardoning Assange/Snowden, ideologues keep making stuff up and destroying their own credibility. I provided my sources in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28004191 As for the rise of bleach ingestion, that was happening prior to this out of context news even…

Maybe you should have been at the press conference to explain his remarks, because it seems a lot of people didn't interpret things correctly: https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by busymom0 »

stonogo wrote: post #492
busymom0 wrote: post #488

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He literally never talked about injecting bleach. Please stop spreading misinformation. Instead of criticizing him on important issues like not pardoning Assange/Snowden, ideologues keep making stuff up and destroying their own credibility. I provided my sources in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28004191 As for the rise of bleach ingestion, that was happening prior to this out of context news even…

Maybe you should have been at the press conference to explain his remarks, because it seems a lot of people didn't interpret things correctly: https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/

Your statement is very similar to saying "maybe she shouldn't have worn a short skirt if she didn't want to get raped".

Top health official is talking about UV light killing the virus, person replies asking questions about possibility of UV light used for disinfecting the lungs as the technology was patented that week, media turns this into "person tells people to inject bleach", ideologues believe whatever media sells them without any questioning, ideologues blame the person instead of media for spreading disinformation, ideologues censor the person.

Partisan hackery isn't helping when the media is lying and ideologues choose to go along with it. Maybe it's time for ideologues to re-consider their own beliefs.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by DangitBobby »

BurningFrog wrote: post #169
the-pigeon wrote: post #128

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I would take this a step further and say that all social media recommendation algorithms should be publicly reviewable. The claim is that this algorithms are neutral. But we know many contain ways for the owner to artificially boost preferred content. And algorithms tend to have the biases of their creators in them. Controlling what people see is an important power and one that should be regulated.

> Controlling what people see is an important power and one that should be regulated. This will give the power of what people see to the regulators.

Yes. The entire point of government is to delegate important functions that cannot be handled correctly by a "free market" to elected officials, which would include appointing regulators. So that would be the system working as intended.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by raxxorrax »

gunapologist99 wrote: post #210

Facebook seems to be censoring so much because Facebook believes that most people will actually believe whatever bits of misinformation are floating around out there. But is everyone that easily manipulated? More importantly, does everyone actually believe that they can be easily manipulated, or do they just think that everyone else is so easily manipulated, but somehow they're above the fray? And at what point does…

> This is way past censoring Alex Jones

Censoring Alex Jones gives far too much credit to Alex Jones because of the reasons you explained.

It might not feel like a loss, but it was clear from the beginning that it won't stop there. I thought this was a lesson already learned to be honest.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by raxxorrax »

emodendroket wrote: post #394
snowwrestler wrote: post #257

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Facebook is removing content because that is ground they want to stand on. Removing content feels like censorship, so it lends itself to political grandstanding in their favor. Millions of people get upset and demand that Facebook handle all content neutrally, which is exactly what Facebook wanted everyone to think in the first place. The real issue with Facebook is the editorial decisions they make about promoting s…

Nobody actually wants an "uncensored" Facebook. If you went there and your feed were full of spam, porn, and shock videos, you'd stop going.

Censoring opinions isn't equivalent to removing scam and spam.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by CamperBob2 »

gunapologist99 wrote: post #210

Facebook seems to be censoring so much because Facebook believes that most people will actually believe whatever bits of misinformation are floating around out there. But is everyone that easily manipulated? More importantly, does everyone actually believe that they can be easily manipulated, or do they just think that everyone else is so easily manipulated, but somehow they're above the fray? And at what point does…

But is everyone that easily manipulated?

Enough to elect a President, so... yes.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by blooalien »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #430
landemva wrote: post #393

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Yes. 'some group thinks it needs to "protect the others"'. Virtual signaling and safetyism. Hilarious how the virtue signaling elite regularly close their conference calls with "everyone stay safe". Oh, I know you (don't) care about me.

If asking people to take a specific step that has a good chance of protecting them from disease or even death is “virtue signaling” and therefore evil, the concept has lost any meaning it may or may not have had. Labeling something “virtue signaling” implies acceptance that the action in question is beneficial. So you agree that getting vaccinated is a good idea, but somehow manage to still take issue with people say…

> If asking people to take a specific step that has a good chance of protecting them from disease or even death is “virtue signaling” and therefore evil, the concept has lost any meaning it may or may not have had.

At this point it's not even so much about protecting them anymore as it is about protecting them from continuing to mutate and spread a virus that kills people. The "anti-vaxxer" folk are choosing to not only be a danger to themselves but to potentially anyone they come in contact with. What's worse is that they're actively trying to spread their ignorance about vaccines to other people, thereby growing the danger and the problem.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by account42 »

parineum wrote: post #442
gunapologist99 wrote: post #210

Facebook seems to be censoring so much because Facebook believes that most people will actually believe whatever bits of misinformation are floating around out there. But is everyone that easily manipulated? More importantly, does everyone actually believe that they can be easily manipulated, or do they just think that everyone else is so easily manipulated, but somehow they're above the fray? And at what point does…

>at what point does the censorship to protect me from manipulation become manipulation itself? Immediately. Everyone has biases.

I would go further and say that manipulation is the entire point of censorship.
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