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CDC Internal Delta Variant Presentation

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Re: CDC Internal Delta Variant Presentation

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Anyone else notice that failed redaction attempt on slides 1 and 24?

Perhaps they don’t want you to contact or question the federal employee that wrote the document.

Where "contact" is a euphemism for "send death threats to"?

Re: CDC Internal Delta Variant Presentation

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what's wrong with masked world? it helps stop the spread of other airborne diseases as well, it filters out (to some extent) the smog, facial recognition software has more trouble, so we regain at least some privacy...

Sorry, what did you say? I can't see through these fogged glasses.

I feel you man, but that means the seal on your nose is leaking. Pushing down on the flexible strip for better seal usually helps.

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Slide 21 >Given higher transmissibility and current vaccine coverage, universal masking is essential to reduce transmission of the Delta variant Well that's very sad, if not entirely unexpected. How long will we be living in a masked world?

what's wrong with masked world? it helps stop the spread of other airborne diseases as well, it filters out (to some extent) the smog, facial recognition software has more trouble, so we regain at least some privacy...

I find it very constricting as well as depressing. Regarding the constriction - the extra insulation causes me to sweat more, fogs up my glasses, and makes it harder to breathe. The depressing bit comes from not being able to see people's faces, smiles, and emotions as easily. It is especially difficult if you have a disability like deafness, where seeing lips is crucial to navigating everyday interactions.

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what's wrong with masked world? it helps stop the spread of other airborne diseases as well, it filters out (to some extent) the smog, facial recognition software has more trouble, so we regain at least some privacy...

The masks most people wear basically only diffuse sneezes and coughs which makes immediate droplet transfer lower. A piece of ordinary cloth on your face does not filter smog, does not prevent any airborne infection droplets from reaching you, essentially only lowers the chance of your cough hitting somebody else. You need an N95 or better to really do anything to protect yourself. Also even if you have a high grade…

If you want better filtering, you can always wear a cartridge respirator. They're also much easier to wear correctly -- they're hot, and the sweat on your face creates a seal against the rubber, making it very easy to tell when the seal is or isn't working.

I have one that I use when woodworking / sanding / varnishing, and the difference between a respirator and even a good N95 mask is like night and day. You can pull in a gratuitous volume of air through the respirator and it doesn't have that "there is a disconcertingly noticeable quantity of VOCs getting past this N95 mask" smell to it.

Re: CDC Internal Delta Variant Presentation

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what's wrong with masked world? it helps stop the spread of other airborne diseases as well, it filters out (to some extent) the smog, facial recognition software has more trouble, so we regain at least some privacy...

Oh I don’t know, crushing depression, psychological atmosphere of fear, no biggy

I understand that it must be depressing for people who see masks only as infringing on their freedoms and nothing else, because they are currently at the mercy of society.

If someone sees mask wearing instead as a joint effort to fight the pandemic, as means to get out of it earlier by limiting the spread of the disease or as a way that they can do something to protect themselves no matter what others might do, then it is absolutely not depressing. Self-efficacy influences mood positively a lot.

Re: CDC Internal Delta Variant Presentation

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Stumbled upon some truly cursed knowledge (if it's true, though I fervently hope not). Imagine a followup pandemic not of more Covid but of neurodegenerative disease from this. Not just in the most severe cases.

1. https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/14174356332121825...

2. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096999611...

Re: CDC Internal Delta Variant Presentation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what's wrong with masked world? it helps stop the spread of other airborne diseases as well, it filters out (to some extent) the smog, facial recognition software has more trouble, so we regain at least some privacy...

Oh I don’t know, crushing depression, psychological atmosphere of fear, no biggy

Wild how westerners make these dystopian associations, while in Asia it’s just part of basic hygiene, like expecting people to wipe their ass or wash their hands.

Re: CDC Internal Delta Variant Presentation

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Slide 21 >Given higher transmissibility and current vaccine coverage, universal masking is essential to reduce transmission of the Delta variant Well that's very sad, if not entirely unexpected. How long will we be living in a masked world?

what's wrong with masked world? it helps stop the spread of other airborne diseases as well, it filters out (to some extent) the smog, facial recognition software has more trouble, so we regain at least some privacy...

The inability to see people's smiles, emotions is pretty sad. This is especially bad for new borns and kids.

Also I don't know how people do it with having to smell their own breath for long. Regardless of how well the oral hygiene is, breath gets bad after eating some food.

Also cloth masks are pretty much useless considering their penetration level of 97%. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

> Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%. This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.

https://www.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

> Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.

> We did not consider the use of respirators in the community. Respirators are tight-fitting masks that can protect the wearer from fine particles (37) and should provide better protection against influenza virus exposures when properly worn because of higher filtration efficiency. However, respirators, such as N95 and P2 masks, work best when they are fit-tested, and these masks will be in limited supply during the next pandemic. These specialist devices should be reserved for use in healthcare settings or in special subpopulations such as immunocompromised persons in the community, first responders, and those performing other critical community functions, as supplies permit.

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