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Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by decremental »

ben_w wrote: post #146
decremental wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So just unfollow her. It sounds like you have some major issues with her personally anyway so how is this a failure by the platform and not just you subjecting yourself to a negative situation?

The stuff she writes directly (rather than liking memes from groups she’s in) is as interesting as any other friend’s posts. Reason I mention her politics is because they’re about as extreme as you can get. The problem is that Facebook is convinced that I, a British citizen living in Berlin, want to see “Bernie Sanders Dank Memes” (or whatever it was, there are many) even though I’ve clicked on the button labeled “do…

I can certainly understand and sympathize with not wanting to see Bernie Sanders dank memes.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by betwixthewires »

scotuswroteus wrote: post #13
crummybowley wrote: post #6

And this is why Facebook has no business being part of fact checking. While it may look different, this is no different than two folks on the phone getting interrupted by ATT and being told they are incorrect on their assumptions about topic X. Social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are the carrier, and should be treated as such.

>"treated as such" -Facebook isn't legally required to fact check. -The CDC position is sufficiently controversial that this is well within the margin of error we'd expect of a fact checker. -AT&T isn't amplifying your phone call to millions by selective algorithms that enhance the most controversial and hateful messages -Carriers are heavily regulated, in part because they enjoy natural monopolies (in AT&T's case, o…

This argument I see everywhere "Facebook amplified your voice, a phone line does not" misses a key point: Facebook chooses to amplify voices. All any of us wanted really was for our friends to see what we say, if they choose to see it. So really, Facebook and similar entities at creating the problem deliberately and then claiming they're entitled to solve it by placing scarlet letters around their site.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by tshaddox »

crummybowley wrote: post #6

And this is why Facebook has no business being part of fact checking. While it may look different, this is no different than two folks on the phone getting interrupted by ATT and being told they are incorrect on their assumptions about topic X. Social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are the carrier, and should be treated as such.

Facebook actively distributes content though. I'm pretty sure they don't show fact checks on private messages.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by specialist »

tuankiet65 wrote: post #113
nixpulvis wrote: post #53

OK, random thought experiment. As someone without a facebook it's hard for me to evaluate, but how much damage would really be caused if facebook just disappeared one day?

Facebook going down means losing contact with my friends overseas. I myself am studying as an international student, and many of my former classmates are studying in another countries as well. Messenger (and consequently Facebook) is pretty much the place that people in my home country hang out at.

Is Messenger a vector for misinformation? (I've never seen or used it.)

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by _-david-_ »

13years wrote: post #84
manofmanysmiles wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How should this be interpreted? Isn’t implying that the test can’t tell the difference between flu and covid? If that’s true, then, how can we be sure that flu hasn’t been misdiagnosed? What percentage of Covid cases were classified using PCR tests?

Yes, it does state that. However, there is the word 'and' between detection and differentiation. The original could not detect, so therefore differentiation is a moot point. Also, the test for flu was a separate test. So it would have had no effect on the lower flu incidence assuming we didn't test for flu at a lesser rate.

>assuming we didn't test for flu at a lesser rate.

Do we have any numbers on this? I would imagine a lot of people who went to the doctor or whoever complaining of flu like symptoms would have been tested for covid.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by gunapologist99 »

cbsmith wrote: post #12
mikem170 wrote: post #3

The submitted postimg.cc screenshot had the following cdc.gov link [0], which appears to be flagged as false information. The following text was on that cdc page: > After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in Febr…

Context is king. I can easily imagine this content being used to present false narratives. This is the underlying problem we're dealing with.

So you can easily imagine something being used to create a false narrative?

Is that the standard to determine whether to censor the speech?

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by specialist »

chris_wot wrote: post #170

My wife tried to hide her age, but not being terribly Facebook savvy changed her DOB to the current date. She was immediately blocked from Facebook. She appealed and gave her proof of age. Still, Facebook wouldn’t budge. Facebook’s automated mechanisms suck. If they can’t tell that someone who has been on the platform for over a decade with photos showing she is a middle aged women, married with two kids, is not, in…

Open markets require a way to escalate and resolve disputes, adjudicated impartially.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by tshaddox »

jensensbutton wrote: post #119
dumbmachine wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By adding content to user's newsfeed , they ( facebook's algorithm ) have made a explicit decision to share the piece of content and implicit decision that they deem the post safe for sharing. In that case shouldn't a speaker operator be responsible for the voices they amplify?

You only see things in your newsfeed from people you've explicitly added to your network (i.e. explicitly opted in to receiving content from). Is facebook wrong for showing you the things you said you want it to show you?

> You only see things in your newsfeed from people you've explicitly added to your network (i.e. explicitly opted in to receiving content from).

Eh, I'm pretty sure see random posts from political Facebook groups that were commented on by a Facebook friend I added in like 2006 when that sort of "content proliferation" didn't exist yet (or at least wasn't anywhere near as prominent). I explicitly added that friend, yes, but I definitely didn't explicitly consent to receiving every single piece of Internet content that that friend ever interacts with.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by specialist »

svaha1728 wrote: post #114

Text classification with Transformers is hard. Humans are expensive. My guess is also that the link got flagged because of who shared it, but that's just a guess.

Surely government sites in their host countries can be whitelisted?

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by i1856511 »

crummybowley wrote: post #6

And this is why Facebook has no business being part of fact checking. While it may look different, this is no different than two folks on the phone getting interrupted by ATT and being told they are incorrect on their assumptions about topic X. Social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are the carrier, and should be treated as such.

Excellent troll.
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