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Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by ghaff »

kbenson wrote: post #12
data4lyfe wrote: post #10

Best optimization of weather conditions has to be seasonal. Seattle and Portland may be horrible 8 months out of the year but the summer months are quite perfect. What I want to know are which cities are great seasonal cities in which I could potentially buy a condo for the high seasons, and then leave in the non-high seasons for a potential rental at a still competitive price. For example: SF sucks in the summer, bu…

> For example: SF sucks in the summer, but maybe the tourists don't know that. Actual SF, or surrounding areas? I would think SF is fairly nice in the summer with the ocean breeze. Sonoma county gets pretty warm in the summer as well, but SF proper always felt cooler to me. I can imagine San Jose being just as bad or worse though.

You do have the probably apocryphal Mark Twain "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." And you can really get the cold, grey city vibe. But, honestly for the most part, it's hard to find a lot of fault (for me) in SF climate most of the year. And I've spent a lot of time there even if I've never lived there.

ADDED: And I wouldn't think most people would think anything in NoCal generally (or most of CA even more generally) "sucked" in the summer

Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by yesenadam »

Weather is complicated. e.g. Taree (NSW, Australia) gets a 10 in the list of 129 cities with nearly perfect weather. But in summer it's often very hot and humid. Way too hot. (Source: I did 11 years of school there!) But just 30 minutes drive down the road is Forster-Tuncurry, between ocean and lake, with a sea breeze, never too hot or humid, which I'd say does have perfect weather. They're both fairly small country towns, though, not cities.

I'm in Sydney now. I have friends in many countries, who live with typhoons, earthquakes, volcanoes, floods, violence...and not having any of that here makes me feel fortunate and it almost justifies the crazy high rent.

Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by whalesalad »

shoto_io wrote: post #11

WeatherSpark is my favorite platform for this question. Lots of data and look-a-like places. Highly recommended. https://www.weatherspark.com/

Remarkable how different the experience is on that website when you are not using an ad blocker.

Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by ardit33 »

Most of European Coastal Mediterranean, (Spain, Italy, France, Greece, Albania, southern part of Croatia), including Portugal, San Diego, and anything close to the ocean in California (as long as it is not in the fog belt like San Francisco),

South Africa, and perhaps some parts of Australia and Latin America.

Basically, anywhere where it is sunny 'Mild Mediterranean' weather, that it is not too hot (North Africa is too hot for my taste).

Top Cities in Europe: Barcelona, Valencia, in Spain, Livornia, Rimini, Pisa, in Italy (Rome can get too hot), Marsseille, Nice in France, Durres, Vlora in Albania, (actually most of Albania has great weather), Dubrovnik in Croatia, Corfu, Patras, Selaniki in Greece), Lisbon and Porto in Portugal, etc...

This is the sunshine map of Europe. Light Orange areas are probably the best areas weather wise. If it is the bright Orange, then Coastal areas are still great, but inland might get too hot. Eg. Madrid, and Rome get too hot in the summer, but cities like Barcelona, or Niece in France are more moderate as they are coastal:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Europe_s...

Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by onion2k »

I don't think I could define what "the best weather" means. I like a sunny day as much as anyone, but I like snow too, and a huge thunderstorm, and even a bit of rain, and mist, and everything else. I'd miss a lot of that if I lived somewhere that had the "best" weather.

Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by gpsx »

thefourthchime wrote: post #3

Little surprised Redwood, CA isn't there. Their slogan is "Climate best by government test"

Redwood City and other mid Bay Area mid-peninsula cities have very nice weather. They have the same effect that makes San Diego so nice, the interface between warm sun and cool ocean. If the criteria was slightly different, biased cooler, Redwood city might be on the list.

Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by kazinator »

I saw a documentary on Japanese TV on this topic. Or, actually, it might have been this reality TV show:

https://www.asahi.co.jp/konnatokoroni/

whose concept is that Japanese celebrities travel to various places in the world, often remote, to pay a surprise visit to some Japanese person living there.

Anyway, in this particular episode, a certain gentleman was visited who lives in some high altitude mountainous location in Vietnam, I think.

He chose to live there largely due to the ideal climate.

The idea is that one important characteristic of a "good" climate is that there are no swings in temperature: no seasons. OK, that constrains us to the tropics. (Or else, as a strawman argument, perhaps to the Arctic or Antarctica.) But it's hot and humid in the tropics, with rain. The solution: a high altitude location in the mountains at a tropical latitude: low lat, high alt. A high altitude location in the tropics still has no seasons, but is cooler and with less rain.

The gentleman said that he could go outside year round wearing the same light clothing. He also pointed out that the advantage is not just comfort; he was able able to grow vegetables all year round, without regard for seasons.

Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by sjs7007 »

onion2k wrote: post #26

I don't think I could define what "the best weather" means. I like a sunny day as much as anyone, but I like snow too, and a huge thunderstorm, and even a bit of rain, and mist, and everything else. I'd miss a lot of that if I lived somewhere that had the "best" weather.

Basically you want seasons instead of monotony.

Re: Where Is the World’s Best Weather? (2020)

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Post by ojbyrne »

data4lyfe wrote: post #10

Best optimization of weather conditions has to be seasonal. Seattle and Portland may be horrible 8 months out of the year but the summer months are quite perfect. What I want to know are which cities are great seasonal cities in which I could potentially buy a condo for the high seasons, and then leave in the non-high seasons for a potential rental at a still competitive price. For example: SF sucks in the summer, bu…

SF has microclimates and for my preferences the southeastern part of the city (the Mission, Potrero Hill, Dogpatch) have perfect summers. Highs of 65-75, and then at night the fog comes and cools things down for perfect sleep temperatures. On the western side of the city it’s just fog all day.

Plus it’s always an impressive sight to see the fog come over the hills every day.

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