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Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by AlexTWithBeard »

underseacables wrote: post #62
nixpulvis wrote: post #53

OK, random thought experiment. As someone without a facebook it's hard for me to evaluate, but how much damage would really be caused if facebook just disappeared one day?

Absolutely zero. People would find another way to communicate, socialize, or whatever. The loss of Facebook would be a loss of jobs and income for people, but that’s it. Facebook serves no positive purpose in society, and it seems the best thing a person can do, is to delete their Facebook account.

1. Lots of information will disappear. Vast majority of it will be garbage, but occasional jewels in the mud will get thrown away as well.

2. S&P 500 will go down 2.5% the very instant FB disappears. Further consequences for financial markets are hard to predict.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by nixpulvis »

AlexTWithBeard wrote: post #71
underseacables wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely zero. People would find another way to communicate, socialize, or whatever. The loss of Facebook would be a loss of jobs and income for people, but that’s it. Facebook serves no positive purpose in society, and it seems the best thing a person can do, is to delete their Facebook account.

1. Lots of information will disappear. Vast majority of it will be garbage, but occasional jewels in the mud will get thrown away as well. 2. S&P 500 will go down 2.5% the very instant FB disappears. Further consequences for financial markets are hard to predict.

I was more thinking about the facebook groups. Where would they go? Discord? Meetup? Some new aggregator?

Would anything actually improve?

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by acdha »

jackweirdy wrote: post #45
clipradiowallet wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is the underlying problem we're dealing with. What's the underlying problem? How are we dealing with it? As someone who does not and has never had a facebook account, I have very little context to understand what you are talking about.

I have seen this sentence of the link: > CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses Used to claim that many positive test results were not covid cases, but were flu cases. This _isn’t_ the case — the CDC is now recommending tests that can check for multiple infections rather than just one. But the wordi…

> 3) Facebook’s response is the “Fake News” label, when while the source has its faults it is not Fake or News, it’s just having meaning attributed to it that’s not there

I would also be unsurprised to learn that this is something like an original conspiracy post being correctly flagged as fake news and subsequent posts with the same URLs either being auto-tagged or suggested as the same to a reviewer who is almost certainly overworked and underpaid.

All of the big tech companies like to rely on automation to avoid hiring more people and it's really easy to imagine this repurposing infrastructure which was originally built to quickly block things like spam or malware links being shared where the presence of a particular URL does in fact mean the post is highly similar.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by Finger_Fudge »

Fact checking is just so Orwellian, how is it even possible that intelligent-seeming people have fallen for this trick? And what happens when the media lies, such as when they told us a year and a half ago that "masks actually spread COVID?"

This is all so unbelievably ridiculous. I no longer trust the authorities and fact checking is just making it worse.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by bmarquez »

nixpulvis wrote: post #72
AlexTWithBeard wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Lots of information will disappear. Vast majority of it will be garbage, but occasional jewels in the mud will get thrown away as well. 2. S&P 500 will go down 2.5% the very instant FB disappears. Further consequences for financial markets are hard to predict.

I was more thinking about the facebook groups. Where would they go? Discord? Meetup? Some new aggregator? Would anything actually improve?

I'm seeing more of my Facebook groups move to Telegram chat rooms or channels.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

crummybowley wrote: post #6

And this is why Facebook has no business being part of fact checking. While it may look different, this is no different than two folks on the phone getting interrupted by ATT and being told they are incorrect on their assumptions about topic X. Social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are the carrier, and should be treated as such.

> Social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are the carrier, and should be treated as such.

They are not "carriers" nor are they "publishers" because those concepts aren't legal terms, outside a very narrow field of law and the imagination of the tech community.

Besides, "carriers" aren't as free from intervention as you make it out to be. AT&T can and does, and sometimes is required to, block spam or fraudulent calls, for example/

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by slumdev »

cbsmith wrote: post #12
mikem170 wrote: post #3

The submitted postimg.cc screenshot had the following cdc.gov link [0], which appears to be flagged as false information. The following text was on that cdc page: > After December 31, 2021, CDC will withdraw the request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) of the CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, the assay first introduced in Febr…

Context is king. I can easily imagine this content being used to present false narratives. This is the underlying problem we're dealing with.

Better not let the peasants have any more of this dangerous information without a fact checker to provide them the right context.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by ajross »

clipradiowallet wrote: post #17
cbsmith wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Context is king. I can easily imagine this content being used to present false narratives. This is the underlying problem we're dealing with.

> This is the underlying problem we're dealing with. What's the underlying problem? How are we dealing with it? As someone who does not and has never had a facebook account, I have very little context to understand what you are talking about.

> What's the underlying problem?

Huge chunks of the American public are refusing to take a vaccine that could end the pandemic and save tens-to-hundreds of thousands of lives because people are lying to them on forums like Facebook (also right here on HN) and telling them it's dangerous.

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by tomcooks »

jerkstate wrote: post #29
crummybowley wrote: post #6

And this is why Facebook has no business being part of fact checking. While it may look different, this is no different than two folks on the phone getting interrupted by ATT and being told they are incorrect on their assumptions about topic X. Social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are the carrier, and should be treated as such.

There really isn’t any such thing as fact checking, only narrative pushing.

The scientific method would like to have a drink with you

Re: Facebook is now claiming official CDC.gov links are “False Information”

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Post by ddvvff »

nixpulvis wrote: post #53

OK, random thought experiment. As someone without a facebook it's hard for me to evaluate, but how much damage would really be caused if facebook just disappeared one day?

A lot of small businesses thrive on Facebook pages, restaurants too, at least in my country. Those would go under fast
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