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Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Pretty damning email: > In a March 2019 email included in the suit, Marvel Chief Counsel Dave Galluzzi said the release would be according to a traditional theatrical model, adding, “We understand that should the plan change, we would need to discuss this with you and come to an understanding as the deal is based on a series of (very large) box office bonuses.” UPDATE: just realized that she's suing Disney and this q…

"Said". Good luck with "said" in the court. Movie was bad nevertheless.

"said" referring to something written in this case, in an email. It's not hearsay (if that's what you're implying) but a statement by someone with some degree of authority/responsibility.

This can actually become important in legal proceedings. It's one reason to be careful with what people say in meetings or write in communications with customers or others, as it can become legally binding if they're perceived to have sufficient authority/responsibility to back the statement.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Aside from the issue of box-office split I imagine like there are a lot of other material ways actors lose out when this happens.

A studio may look at a 50M ad buy and think that, because it would only net 60M in ticket sales tops, its not worth the risk. However, from the POV of the actor part of the reason they appeared in a big budget movie was to get lots of screentime on tv/ads beforehand to boost their profile.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

#54
This reminds me of Robin Williams. Disney did roughly the same thing to him. He did Aladdin (highest-grossing of 1992) with the proviso that Disney couldn't sell merchandise. They did. He didn't sue but he refused to work with Disney again and created quite a storm in Hollywood. Disney eventually publicly apologized (but only after Katzenberg left).

https://insidethemagic.net/2021/05/robin-williams-refused-di...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Williams

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Orange site bad.

Disney+ with 100M active subs is completely different than minor streaming services before that.

And there is nobody in Hollywood that wouldn't have anticipated that. Disney is the Microsoft of the movie world - an extremely aggressive company with a track record of dominating or being a major player in any market it chooses to compete in.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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This makes sense. A lot of stars expect a cut of box office revenues and negotiate that in. But the negotiations happened probably prior to the pandemic and the new situation probably was unthinkable. Also the box office in general has been destroyed recently because of the pandemic. What would have likely been $+150M opening weekends and close to $1B totals revenue (or even more) are reduced to fractions of that. ED…

Not hard at all, actually. All stars have very savvy agents and lawyers, and the movie industry has always been a cutthroat business. Don't let the glitz and glamor blind you to the fact that it is an industry which selects for people who work very long hours and drive hard bargains, at every level. Every professional contract I've ever seen contemplates expansion into future media and markets; it's a technology driv…

Wasn't it Lucas or someone who was famous for negotiating ongoing rights / IP ownership, when the studio (in retrospect) drastically undervalued them?

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

#58

Feels like when Microsoft licensed Mosaic from Spyglass to become Internet Explorer, and a chunk of the compensation was tied to a fraction of revenue from Internet Explorer. Of course Microsoft gave IE away as part of Windows so IE never had any revenue associated directly with it. Eventually MS did settle a lawsuit brought by Spyglass for $8 million to make the issue go away.

That's a great parallel. Most of Disney's profit on this movie is gonna end up coming in the form of Disney+ subscriptions, which she won't be getting any cut of. And unlike the Spyglass case, her original contract explicitly anticipated this -- Disney just ignored it and now a lawsuit is the only way to settle it.

Re: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is if Disney blacklists her from its main franchises, Star Wars and Marvel and Pixar/Disney animation films, that is more than half of the box office these days. The box office is I think 50% super hero films now. That said I think they won't...

Sounds very antitrust to me.

The United States government needs to break up The Avengers?
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