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South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Post by unyttigfjelltol »

rafaelturk wrote: post #6

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

Then patent offices will generate adversarial AI review examiners. Together the AI trolls and AI examiners might for the first time produce true innovation out of the patent-giving process

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Post by BrianOnHN »

unyttigfjelltol wrote: post #11
rafaelturk wrote: post #6

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

Then patent offices will generate adversarial AI review examiners. Together the AI trolls and AI examiners might for the first time produce true innovation out of the patent-giving process

After said trolls force the hand of the government to invest in a sufficient adversarial network.

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Post by soco »

rafaelturk wrote: post #6

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

This can be done also without listing AI as the inventor. What was stopping them yesterday from generating random patents and is not stopping them today with this?

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Post by dleslie »

unyttigfjelltol wrote: post #11
rafaelturk wrote: post #6

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

Then patent offices will generate adversarial AI review examiners. Together the AI trolls and AI examiners might for the first time produce true innovation out of the patent-giving process

AFAICT, a sufficient AI review examiner would validate all inputs that are reasonably coherent, but not necessarily novel.

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Post by LegitShady »

maybe_pablo wrote: post #7
ENGNR wrote: post #2

My hammer made a house, I merely own it

On the contrary, can a person paid to develop something be considered (partially) a tool?

No, because people are not objects or expert systems.That’s not even a hard concept. It’s like asking if you can be considered a plant because you drink water and grow taller…it’s not looking at the right details.

“Tools do stuff, humans do stuff, are humans tools?” Is abuse of transitive property in an illogical way.

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Post by chrisrhoden »

https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO20...

This is the patent application, as far as I can tell. And as others have noted, this is obviously a political stunt—the article makes that clear as well.

Frustratingly, it doesn't seem like there's anything interesting or useful happening in the actual patent. It would not surprise me to find that they had been rejected in part because the idea seems to be either literally impossible to implement or basically uninteresting, depending on your interpretation.

Also, as a non-lawyer, this stunt requires talking out of both sides of one's mouth. They necessarily assert that they have the authority to speak on behalf of the machine listed as the inventor in order to assign ownership of the patent, so why not just assert oneself as the inventor?

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Post by londons_explore »

rafaelturk wrote: post #6

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

A patent fee should keep this behaviour to a minimum...

Patents already have quite a big fee, but perhaps it should be made larger to prevent this kind of abuse. If the large fee prevents inventors, then perhaps some scheme along the lines of 'The fee is $50 for the first 5 inventions, then $100k per patent after that" might be suitable.

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