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Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by peakaboo »

BurningFrog wrote: post #58
resource0x wrote: post #19

Quote from https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-79959... "Citing new information about the variant’s ability to spread among vaccinated people , the CDC also recommended indoor masks for all teachers, staff, students and visitors at schools nationwide, regardless of vaccination status." If someone is vaccinated AND still spreading the virus, is it any different from having an asymthomatic case of CO…

Vaccinated people get in contact with the virus as much as the non vaccinated. The virus invades the bodies and start multiplying in both populations. The difference is that the vaccinated body is prepared to immediately attack the virus, something that takes weeks for the unvaccinated body to figure out. So during the short interval when the vaccinated body hasn't yet wiped out the virus, the person is technically i…

> The difference is that the vaccinated body is prepared to immediately attack the virus, something that takes weeks for the unvaccinated body to figure out.

Then vaccine side effects literally ruin your life if you get them. You will be sick, weak, perhaps unable to walk anymore, perhaps constantly shaking.

So many young people have gotten their lives completely ruined by trusting these vaccines. Anyone can go to CovidVaccinated on reddit and see the horrors people experience.

Most vaccinated people are fine (although we have no idea if they will continue to be fine or not, could be birth defects, infertility, or anything else that shows in months or years).

To me it's very stupid to risk your life for this vaccine. Its dangerous.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

#82

Post by peakaboo »

ajross wrote: post #29
resource0x wrote: post #19

Quote from https://apnews.com/article/health-coronavirus-pandemic-79959... "Citing new information about the variant’s ability to spread among vaccinated people , the CDC also recommended indoor masks for all teachers, staff, students and visitors at schools nationwide, regardless of vaccination status." If someone is vaccinated AND still spreading the virus, is it any different from having an asymthomatic case of CO…

> If someone is vaccinated AND still spreading the virus, is it any different from having an asymthomatic case of COVID? It carries about an order of magnitude lower risk of hospitalization or death, so... yes. Yes, it is very different. We don't know about long term effects, those are, y'know, long term and hard to study in this kind of timeframe. Which is why the linked article is notable. Also note that risk of tr…

Very bad advice to take that vaccine in my opinion. It's dangerous and not worth the risk at all.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

#83

Post by arpa »

peakaboo wrote: post #81
BurningFrog wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaccinated people get in contact with the virus as much as the non vaccinated. The virus invades the bodies and start multiplying in both populations. The difference is that the vaccinated body is prepared to immediately attack the virus, something that takes weeks for the unvaccinated body to figure out. So during the short interval when the vaccinated body hasn't yet wiped out the virus, the person is technically i…

> The difference is that the vaccinated body is prepared to immediately attack the virus, something that takes weeks for the unvaccinated body to figure out. Then vaccine side effects literally ruin your life if you get them. You will be sick, weak, perhaps unable to walk anymore, perhaps constantly shaking. So many young people have gotten their lives completely ruined by trusting these vaccines. Anyone can go to Co…

how does one flag a comment @dang?

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

#84

Post by croes »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #80
croes wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are missing a vital information. 152 death in how many vaccinations? 44,694,799 total doses administered, if all of these were two shots than that would be over 22,000,000 people. What is the death rate of 22,000,000 infected people without vaccination?

Here is why this is a bad hypothetical: 1) You are assuming that the current set of vaccines will stop the spread of this disease. This is already in doubt due to break away strains. In fact, it's possible that the currently vaccinated will be more susceptible to spread the new strains. This week's mask mandate was all about the vaccinated spreading the delta strain and having more viral load in their nose . Naturall…

1) Studies show that vaccinated don't stop the spread of the variants but still slow it down compared to the not vaccinated. >In fact, it's possible that the currently vaccinated will be more susceptible to spread the new strains. On what is that assumption based? The vaccination effect is based on normal antibodies of the immune system, so there is no big difference between vaccinated and recovered.

2) You are confusing infection with infection disease. You can be sure you will get infected by the corona virus but that doesn't mean you'll get COVID. If 22,000,000 people get the corona virus if with low IFR like 0.003 you get 660 deaths and that's only for people under 30. Additionally you are ignoring the effect of the variants you are referencing in 1) Young people are more likely to get sick by the variants and herd immunity is based on antibodies and therefore have the same problem as he vaccine based antibodies. A new variant could make them equally useless.

3) We don't know the long term effects by corona either. In contrast to the vaccines, we have already found evidence of organ damage in the heart , lungs and kidneys with Corona, which may not disappear even in the long term.

The bottom line is that the risk without vaccination is much higher than with vaccination.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

arpa wrote: post #83
peakaboo wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The difference is that the vaccinated body is prepared to immediately attack the virus, something that takes weeks for the unvaccinated body to figure out. Then vaccine side effects literally ruin your life if you get them. You will be sick, weak, perhaps unable to walk anymore, perhaps constantly shaking. So many young people have gotten their lives completely ruined by trusting these vaccines. Anyone can go to Co…

how does one flag a comment @dang?

How I do this is:

On the main page, the comment has a header, e.g. "peakaboo 1 hour ago [–]"

Click on the "1 hour ago" (will be later for you, obviously)

Now you see just the 1 comment, and a reply form.

But now the header has more options, "peakaboo 1 hour ago | parent | flag | favorite"

I have clicked "flag", to help take out the trash on this one too.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by valeron102 »

peakaboo wrote: post #81
BurningFrog wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaccinated people get in contact with the virus as much as the non vaccinated. The virus invades the bodies and start multiplying in both populations. The difference is that the vaccinated body is prepared to immediately attack the virus, something that takes weeks for the unvaccinated body to figure out. So during the short interval when the vaccinated body hasn't yet wiped out the virus, the person is technically i…

> The difference is that the vaccinated body is prepared to immediately attack the virus, something that takes weeks for the unvaccinated body to figure out. Then vaccine side effects literally ruin your life if you get them. You will be sick, weak, perhaps unable to walk anymore, perhaps constantly shaking. So many young people have gotten their lives completely ruined by trusting these vaccines. Anyone can go to Co…

I think you are a robot. Look I made an assumption too :) just like you. I have no evidence for what I ve said, again just like you.

Dude, please stop watching the news and read more books.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

#87

Post by drcongo »

dotcommand wrote: post #34
ajross wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I agree with you that there are people who cavalierly dismiss the dangers of covid. Don't call it the flu. It's not the flu. It's killed 20x more people than the flu even in the fact of pervasive society-changing mitigation strategies (all while the flu itself has all but gone extinct, remember! All that masking and distance learning actually worked!). It's not the flu. Beyond that, nitpick with my phrasing all you…

> Don't call it the flu. It's not the flu. The original commenter didn't call it the flu as far as I can tell. He wrote: "Is there some reason to expect that covid-19 is different in long term effects than a flu? This study is saying it causes substantial brain damage, right? What possible mechanism is there for this?". Nowhere did he call it the flu. > It's killed 20x more people than the flu even in the fact of per…

That's not a logical fallacy. A logical fallacy would be concluding that "all black things are cats" from the sentence "all cats are black".

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by _y5hn »

yeuxardents wrote: post #50
ajross wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If someone is vaccinated AND still spreading the virus, is it any different from having an asymthomatic case of COVID? It carries about an order of magnitude lower risk of hospitalization or death, so... yes. Yes, it is very different. We don't know about long term effects, those are, y'know, long term and hard to study in this kind of timeframe. Which is why the linked article is notable. Also note that risk of tr…

> We don't know about long term effects, those are, y'know, long term and hard to study in this kind of timeframe. Which is why the linked article is notable. This is priceless, as, for the same reasons, we do not know the long term effects of any of the vaccines either.

They are regarded as very safe compared to other approaches.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Post by Tostino »

peakaboo wrote: post #82
ajross wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If someone is vaccinated AND still spreading the virus, is it any different from having an asymthomatic case of COVID? It carries about an order of magnitude lower risk of hospitalization or death, so... yes. Yes, it is very different. We don't know about long term effects, those are, y'know, long term and hard to study in this kind of timeframe. Which is why the linked article is notable. Also note that risk of tr…

Very bad advice to take that vaccine in my opinion. It's dangerous and not worth the risk at all.

I'm glad no one asked for your expert opinion then.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

#90

Post by MperorM »

ajross wrote: post #38
dotcommand wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't call it the flu. It's not the flu. The original commenter didn't call it the flu as far as I can tell. He wrote: "Is there some reason to expect that covid-19 is different in long term effects than a flu? This study is saying it causes substantial brain damage, right? What possible mechanism is there for this?". Nowhere did he call it the flu. > It's killed 20x more people than the flu even in the fact of per…

Look, nitpick. Claim I'm making a straw man argument, anything you want. All that is fine, and totally on brand for this web site. Do. Not. Liken. Covid. To. The. Flu. If you didn't, good! Don't.

Why not? They have many things in common. For example make they both make you sick, often with similar symptoms.

If you're arguing that you shouldn't dismiss the danger of covid because of its flu like nature, then be my guest but asking not to make comparisons between things doesn't strike me as a very smart thing to do.

Covid can be dangerous and similar to the flu at the same time.

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