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Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic symptoms in mid-life

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Re: Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic symptoms in mid-life

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Wouldn't a better title be: Psychotic symptoms across a range of psychiatric disorders in midlife preceeded by perceptual distortions in late teens in xx percent of cases, exclusive of circumstances concomitant with perceptual distortion but not psychosis such as ptsd, synesthesia, autism, genius, artistic talent, prescription, drug, alcohol use, trauma, poverty, poor nutrition, health issues, the world actually being tilted...

Re: Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic symptoms in mid-life

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Psychosis and psychopathy are distinct, for what it's worth.

The article seems to treat psychosis, psychotic symptoms, and Schizophrenia as though they all refer to the same thing.

But not psychopathy.

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I have always had these distortions throughout my life. I sometimes feel like high-functioning psychotic. I recall the story of that researcher James Fallon that found out he was a psychopath when he scanned his own brain. Everything feels intellectualized rather than a concrete physical reality.

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I have always had these distortions throughout my life. I sometimes feel like high-functioning psychotic. I recall the story of that researcher James Fallon that found out he was a psychopath when he scanned his own brain. Everything feels intellectualized rather than a concrete physical reality.

One feature of psychosis and mental illness, in general, is a lack of insight into one's own condition, or the lack of a complete picture into how symptoms impact one's thoughts and behaviors.

In psychosis, this very pronounced because many of those who experience psychosis don't know they're experiencing delusions or hallucinations. It's all very real to them.

The fact that you have an awareness of your distortions seems to suggest that you're not psychotic.

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I get a world tilting thing maybe once a year. Usually while falling asleep. I also sometimes get this weird perceptual thing where objects look huge, again, normally while in a dark room. I've also had odd sensations that accompany these perceptual changes. All of these occur very rarely. Like I said, maybe twice a year, but closer to once per year. I can't find it now, but I had learned about seizure activity and h…

> I also sometimes get this weird perceptual thing where objects look huge, again, normally while in a dark room. Does this happen in total black ? I sometimes (really rarely, like once or twice a year) have a strange « feeling » at night while in my bed without any source of light : I can distinctively see the objects around me. The twist is : I’m heavily myopic and even with my glasses (which I don’t wear at night)…

Won't happen in total darkness. Also, it's happened in full daylight. Like all the sudden someones head just looks absolutely massive, like I've lost the ability to perceive size. I find the effect pleasurable so I kinda zone out and let it happen. Otherwise I can snap myself out of it pretty quickly.

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This is a bit disturbing to read as someone who had perceptual distortions in my late teens. I always attributed it to HPPD after using LSD around 15 years old. Now I'm not so sure.

I get a world tilting thing maybe once a year. Usually while falling asleep. I also sometimes get this weird perceptual thing where objects look huge, again, normally while in a dark room. I've also had odd sensations that accompany these perceptual changes. All of these occur very rarely. Like I said, maybe twice a year, but closer to once per year. I can't find it now, but I had learned about seizure activity and h…

>I also sometimes get this weird perceptual thing where objects look huge, again, normally while in a dark room

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_in_Wonderland_syndrome

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>I get a world tilting thing maybe once a year. Usually while falling asleep. I think this is very common and occasionally experienced by most people, including myself. Typically when you're on the border between being awake and falling asleep. >I also sometimes get this weird perceptual thing where objects look huge, again, normally while in a dark room. Haven't experienced this one, but perceptual distortions in a…

The name for what you're talking about is Hypnic Jerk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk

Also a great name for a person who wakes you up just as you're trying to fall asleep. "You, you hypnic jerk!"

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Sounds like vertigo maybe? Does it feel like someone tilted the floor and there's no "up"? Followed by sweating and vomiting and 48 hours of headaches? (Source: I get it a few times a year.)

None of that, it just looks like the floor is tilted forward. It doesn't feel like it though. It's a very odd visual distortion. I noticed while at the eye doctor when testing different lenses I guess he could recreate the feeling by using incorrect magnification on one eye? Making my brain thing the room is tilted left or right. Unrelated, anybody ever feel like they lost consciousness for 250ms? Super rare, but I g…

See another comment on this post about Hypnic Jerk.

Re: Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic symptoms in mid-life

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I have always had these distortions throughout my life. I sometimes feel like high-functioning psychotic. I recall the story of that researcher James Fallon that found out he was a psychopath when he scanned his own brain. Everything feels intellectualized rather than a concrete physical reality.

One feature of psychosis and mental illness, in general, is a lack of insight into one's own condition, or the lack of a complete picture into how symptoms impact one's thoughts and behaviors. In psychosis, this very pronounced because many of those who experience psychosis don't know they're experiencing delusions or hallucinations. It's all very real to them. The fact that you have an awareness of your distortions…

Psychosis is not always like that. You can have an episode and then retrospectively, like days or weeks after the delusion, realize it was not "real" (tm). An example is people on the bipolar spectrum but this can also happen if you are on the autism spectrum and had an overstimulation episode or some other kind of break.

Re: Perceptual distortions in late-teens predict psychotic symptoms in mid-life

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This is a bit disturbing to read as someone who had perceptual distortions in my late teens. I always attributed it to HPPD after using LSD around 15 years old. Now I'm not so sure.

I get a world tilting thing maybe once a year. Usually while falling asleep. I also sometimes get this weird perceptual thing where objects look huge, again, normally while in a dark room. I've also had odd sensations that accompany these perceptual changes. All of these occur very rarely. Like I said, maybe twice a year, but closer to once per year. I can't find it now, but I had learned about seizure activity and h…

Migraine. You needn’t have a headache either.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2289227/

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