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Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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In summary: A.) Pfizer is raking in over $33 billion from vaccine sales. B.) Due to the PREP Act, they are completely immune from lawsuits arising from any form of complications arising from those vaccines. C.) If you don't take this vaccine, you may lose your job[0]. D.) If you don't take this vaccine, you may be barred from normal everyday social activities[1][2]. I can't be the only one who is incredibly uncomfort…

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Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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Pfizer shouldn't be allowed to state publicly their opinion on this. Huge conflict of interests

It’s incredible that we even have to state that. This leaves a bad taste in my mouth, full stop.

I got the vaccine, and am shocked that I may need to comply with another dose or “booster” shots.

I’m trying my hardest to be a team player but I’m incredibly concerned that one side would be OK with “Life-Saving-Vacinne-as-a-Service” for the low cost of x$ per month, for an unknown amount of time, and the other side is cool with ignoring it completely.

Who will ultimately be right is anyone’s guess, but with all the stories about bullshit “variants”and vaccinated people still getting fucked, I have a depleted confidence “in the science”. The same “science” that got us in here in the first place via “Gain of Function” research.

Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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In summary: A.) Pfizer is raking in over $33 billion from vaccine sales. B.) Due to the PREP Act, they are completely immune from lawsuits arising from any form of complications arising from those vaccines. C.) If you don't take this vaccine, you may lose your job[0]. D.) If you don't take this vaccine, you may be barred from normal everyday social activities[1][2]. I can't be the only one who is incredibly uncomfort…

C and D seem fine to me. It's necessary to protect everyone else. A and B are the problem. The US government should have limited Pfizer's profit margin, and they should be using the money saved to cover people's medical costs for complications arising from the vaccine (removing the need to sue).

Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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Party might be ending for Pfizer if this early report plays out as stated and data shows viral blood titers are being found to have higher loads in the vaccinated vs non vaxxed. It would suggest the worst nightmare for a vaccine, ADE could be happening. From NBC Twitter: New data suggests that fully vaccinated individuals are not just contracting COVID, but could be carrying higher levels of virus than previously und…

He's referring to replication in the nasal passage[1], which was already expected[2] and has nothing to do with overall viral titers in the blood stream nor with ADE. ADE would have been detected long before the first trials from last year ended (see tylerhou's comment).

"As the Associated Press notes, Walensky cited data from the last few days, still unpublished, taken from 100 samples from vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals with COVID infections. They found that the amount of virus in the noses and throats of vaccinated infected people was nearly "indistinguishable" from what was found in unvaccinated people, confirming what some experts have suspected."

1. https://sfist.com/2021/07/27/cdc-confirms-that-viral-loads-i...

2. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33320052/

Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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It's obvious we need booster vaccinations. But not another intramuscular that only seeps in serum IgG antibodies into the lower lungs. The levels of antibodies in the upper respiratory mucosa are never very high and drop rapidly. Viral infection of the mucosa and shedding still occurs. We need operation warp speed type money for funding the two good intranasal sars-cov-2 vaccine trials going on right now and to start…

You seem to have a bunch of knowledge on the subject.

Can you explain where you have this knowledge from and maybe explain a little bit more?

For example I wasn't even aware that actual method of vaccination makes any difference and I don't understand how or why exactly.

I just thought we inject into muscle purely because it is convenient and maybe because it would not survive trip through digestive tract.

Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

#26

In summary: A.) Pfizer is raking in over $33 billion from vaccine sales. B.) Due to the PREP Act, they are completely immune from lawsuits arising from any form of complications arising from those vaccines. C.) If you don't take this vaccine, you may lose your job[0]. D.) If you don't take this vaccine, you may be barred from normal everyday social activities[1][2]. I can't be the only one who is incredibly uncomfort…

You're genuinely more uncomfortable with the idea of unfair liability protection than you are with the persistence of a pandemic that has already taken millions of lives? I mean, I think it's possible to agree that maybe the liability waiver is too broad (or that Pfizer's net revenue is too high) and... still view this as the most important single medicine released over the past few decades.

I mean, come on. Literally billions of people have taken this drug. What "complicationss" are you expecting that we wouldn't already have data for? It's... a vaccine. We've all had dozens of them. Did you freak out about your measles jab?

Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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Pfizer shouldn't be allowed to state publicly their opinion on this. Huge conflict of interests

I fully disagree. This is important topic and they definitely have first hand expert knowledge. It is up to us (meaning our governments) to require proper documentation for this and make our own minds based on it.

And is government currently competent in even knowing what proper documentation looks like?

Waiting for anyone competent to confirm or correct this person re: CDC's potentially wholly flawed math: https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccin...

Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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post #5

It's obvious we need booster vaccinations. But not another intramuscular that only seeps in serum IgG antibodies into the lower lungs. The levels of antibodies in the upper respiratory mucosa are never very high and drop rapidly. Viral infection of the mucosa and shedding still occurs. We need operation warp speed type money for funding the two good intranasal sars-cov-2 vaccine trials going on right now and to start…

This same conversation has been trying to be had for existing medication Ivermectin, except little money to be made with it so the industry has been suppressing it and dismissing it nudging government institutions, who seem to rely on what pharma says, to also dismiss/ignore it.

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Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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Pfizer shouldn't be allowed to state publicly their opinion on this. Huge conflict of interests

That's like saying Microsoft shouldn't be allowed to tell people they should update Windows.

Pfizer created the vaccine. Who would know better than them whether a booster is necessary?

Re: Pfizer says 2021 Covid-19 vaccine sales to top $33.5 bln, sees need for boosters

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post #17

Anti-vaxxers are setting the stage for enormous profits for big pharma by creating the conditions for breeding new variants that will require more big pharma to combat them. I feel my grandkids will grow up in a world quite different from mine, where travel and experiences will be gated and limited by fear of contagious disease. That sucks and didn't need to happen. Thought experiment for anti-vaxxers - what if there…

They’d probably pivot to say that’s the risk of a free life. Live free or die is the mantra of many of them. Of course it’s their life which is free, not the people they infect.

I loved your hypothetical device.

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