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Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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All WHO approved vaccines? I'm thinking of leaving the country to try to get an inactive virus vaccine. I don't let anyone else run RNA code in my cells. The attack surface is too large.

I don't let anyone else run RNA code in my cells I think that happens every time you catch a cold.

This is an example of the incredible ignorance around vaccines.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

#112

How are they going to even know you took the vaccine? Honor system? If they force you to disclose doesn't that break HIPAA? If it doesn't break HIPAA, then doesn't this create a precedent that employers can gain your medical history with arbitrary mandates? Seems like a lose-lose.

Hippa only applies to medical professionals i believe. Employers can always ask for your medical records. This has always been the case.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

#113
post #79

I'm shocked so many people on HN support this. The only way I know to prove someone received a vaccine is for them to turn over their medical history. What if companies start refusing to hire someone because they have a bad medical history (insurance costs anyone)? I'm sure many people will respond to this saying "they don't need to turn over their full medical history!" but once we turn over a part of it, they will…

You don't have the right to put others at risk of harm. That's why, at least in the US, vaccinations are already usually mandatory for entering public school.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

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post #106
post #79

I'm shocked so many people on HN support this. The only way I know to prove someone received a vaccine is for them to turn over their medical history. What if companies start refusing to hire someone because they have a bad medical history (insurance costs anyone)? I'm sure many people will respond to this saying "they don't need to turn over their full medical history!" but once we turn over a part of it, they will…

Literally the first line of the article: “ Google announced Wednesday it would require all in-office workers and visitors to be vaccinated” Maybe click on it and read it before flying off on the handle?

I'm calling it now, they will require all employees to have this, remote or not.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

#115
post #18

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Because full authorization takes time. The speed in rolling out emergency use vaccination was by the book. Speeding up full authorization would not be.

interesting precedent for the future. Whats an 'emergency'? Whats is the point of an FDA review at this point?

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Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

#116
post #44

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There's been nearly 4 billion shots delivered across the world in the past 8 months. I suspect if they were to cause great harm, we would have known by now.

Some vaccines take years or even decades to show harm. See Air Force pilots and Anthrax vaccine history. Rare but devastating consequences. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the covid vax. I got Pfizer myself as soon as it was available. But there is still room for doubt.

Also, at least in some years, people who got the flu vaccine in previous years are more likely to die from the flu.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

#117
post #88

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I'm vaccinated and I personally don't care if others choose not to do it.

I care because despite being vaccinated and having had restrictions lifted, I am once again affected by them because of people that refuse to get vaccinated. If the consequences were siloed to unvaccinated people, I wouldn't care as that's their choice.

Those who chose not to get vaccinated are doing nothing to you.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

#118
post #79

I'm shocked so many people on HN support this. The only way I know to prove someone received a vaccine is for them to turn over their medical history. What if companies start refusing to hire someone because they have a bad medical history (insurance costs anyone)? I'm sure many people will respond to this saying "they don't need to turn over their full medical history!" but once we turn over a part of it, they will…

That could be done by not giving your medical history. Every vaccinated person should be delivered a proof of vaccination cryptographically signed by official authorities (eg. CDC in the US), with nothing more that "yes, Bob - ssn XXX - is fully vaccinated". Simple to verify by employers.

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

#119
post #8

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They aren’t fully tested, they have emergency FDA approval but haven’t finished the standard approval process yet.

They are fully tested with continued scrutiny. They have been given emergency approval and granted priority review. There is quantifiable fact and evidence that these vaccines are very effective and safe. Both of the mRNA vaccines are scheduled for full approval in Jan/Feb of 2022.

This is a lie. There is still testing going on to confirm their safety and effectiveness. Here is a list of them:

https://www.pfizer.com/science/find-a-trial/search/BNT162b2/...

Re: Google Offices to Mandate Vaccines

#120

How are they going to even know you took the vaccine? Honor system? If they force you to disclose doesn't that break HIPAA? If it doesn't break HIPAA, then doesn't this create a precedent that employers can gain your medical history with arbitrary mandates? Seems like a lose-lose.

Hippa only applies to medical professionals i believe. Employers can always ask for your medical records. This has always been the case.

really? huh, TIL.
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