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Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by dendory »

sliverstorm wrote: post #24
tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google. Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care . Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or…

I dont think he's telling Google what he's going to do, i thnk he's telling us, encouraging others to do the same. And you know what? I think I'll be doing the same.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by [deleted] »

electromagnetic wrote: post #47
TillE wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really, you're shocked at a hostile reaction when you accuse someone of "false bravado and chest- and/or drum-beating" in a post dripping with condescension? If you're going to dish it out...

Grow up or GTFO, HN is a place for adults. If someone is impolite, your response shouldn't be a trollish immature response. If your life is so grossly devastated by a google action then you're an idiot. All my data on google is backed up multiple times, because I'm a responsible adult and want to ensure the safety of my data. I don't trust google simply because it's google. They're a mega corp that's going to ditch y…

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Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by alayne »

How long are people going to tolerate the tyranny of large companies controlling social interaction? Google+ has all kinds of terms of service that I find infringing of free speech. Facebook has their own terms.

I think we need to stop being sharecroppers and serfs and develop social network solutions that are distributed and open, or at least encourage the projects that are working on it already.

The amount of press Google has been getting seemed like a consumerist distraction from fundamental problems, until the past few days. Now we see they are just the new monarchy, same as the old monarchy. Heads are rolling and maybe people will question these systemic issues.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by spooneybarger »

rjd wrote: post #58
bcl wrote: post #49

Google's lack of real customer service is why I decided to move all of my google app domains over to fastmail.fm -- I'd much rather pay for a service and have a person I can talk to when there is a problem. I guess I'm lucky that I decided to setup my G+ profile with my real name instead of using the actual gmail name I picked.

Google has great customer service. Your misunderstanding lays with the fact you are assuming you are the customer, when in fact you (as the user) are the product (your data) being sold (via ad sense automation). So put simply "if they are not receiving money off you are not the customer". Your relationship is a raw resource exchange of your data with the payment of free services from them. In a sense they are farming…

I've paid for google apps for domains in the past and the service has been barely better than when I was using the free version, so while you point is valid, the statement that google customer service is lacking for many paying customers is also true.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by orijing »

sliverstorm wrote: post #24
tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Every time I see these posts with alarmists giving bullet-lists of things they are "going to do", it sounds a lot to me like they are trying to threaten Google. Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care . Even besides the part where they are Google, I have witnessed a long history of complaints to different companies, and the more false bravado and chest- and/or…

> Just so you're not surprised and disappointed later, I'll let you in on a secret- they don't care.

EXACTLY! They don't care. That's why you have to care. Otherwise, who's looking out for you?

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by tuoru »

tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

If you're not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold. In this case, a product Google no longer wants to sell.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by cryos »

jrockway wrote: post #56
tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

I don't think this is recent at all: this has been going forever. It just happened most recently to someone with a love of spamming the Internet (which is why his gmail was disabled, apparently), and we all heard about this. Combined with ladyada and Skud, it seems like this is happening a lot. But it's three cases out of millions of users.

Define forever, becuase in my books Google+ is only a month old... and I use have used other Google services for a long time with fake names for online gaming... as do many others I've gmaed with (giving out personal information isn't desirable at all when gaming online). The first I heard of accounts banned was people trying to activate Google+ for gaming accounts.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by jshen »

jrockway wrote: post #56
tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

I don't think this is recent at all: this has been going forever. It just happened most recently to someone with a love of spamming the Internet (which is why his gmail was disabled, apparently), and we all heard about this. Combined with ladyada and Skud, it seems like this is happening a lot. But it's three cases out of millions of users.

"But it's three cases out of millions of users"

Are you saying that only three accounts have been suspended? I'm assuming not, but that's what your words mean. Hard to take the point seriously after that.

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