Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
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Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
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Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#2On my social site we have over 160 different reactions, it's a constantly evolving thing reflecting current trends and memes etc (we also had them long before FB).
But the one thing that's really interesting is out of all the 'negative' reactions the 'dislike' was ALWAYS taken personally, people used to qualify it with a comment 'disliking the post, not you' etc. And if they didn't the OP would take it personally.
But when we renamed it from 'dislike' to 'disagree' that problem just evaporated. Human nature is just weird.
Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#3The trouble with up and down buttons, or like and dislike is that they often are only used by the lovers or haters - the 10-20% of people at the opposite ends of the 'likeability spectrum'.
I've never figured out if up/down votes mean the content is good or that people agree with it? (the old issue of people liking death announcements/obituaries) On HN I tend not to downvote unless the person is writing like they're on Reddit, or in an offensive/confrontational manner.
Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#4On my social site we have over 160 different reactions, it's a constantly evolving thing reflecting current trends and memes etc (we also had them long before FB). But the one thing that's really interesting is out of all the 'negative' reactions the 'dislike' was ALWAYS taken personally, people used to qualify it with a comment 'disliking the post, not you' etc. And if they didn't the OP would take it personally. Bu…
Dislike is more emotionally loaded. It's also ambiguous - do you dislike the comment, or do you dislike the commenter? You can't "disagree the commenter"
Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#5Facebook has an option to “See fewer posts like this”. Select the three dots icon on the upper right corner of a post (mobile app) to see it. It doesn’t notify the person that you’ve chosen to not see their posts, so there’s no social risk in clicking it.
I use it liberally and it works. I check Facebook maybe a couple times a month and almost never see anything I don’t want to see any more.
Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#6> The expression to feed into an anonymous algorithm that we don’t just not like something — that we actually dislike it.
The author seems to assume that this sort of interaction would lead to these algorithms recommending similar content less, but these algorithms tend to prioritize engagement, not enjoyment. Downvotes are a form of engagement, so don't be surprised if these algorithms use your downvote patterns to learn what to show you to make you angry, upset, and engaged.
Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#7The trouble with up and down buttons, or like and dislike is that they often are only used by the lovers or haters - the 10-20% of people at the opposite ends of the 'likeability spectrum'. I've never figured out if up/down votes mean the content is good or that people agree with it? (the old issue of people liking death announcements/obituaries) On HN I tend not to downvote unless the person is writing like they're…
To add to your point (kind of) the dislikes are often caused by brigading and a bunch of people just get onto the site to vote down something in a community they don’t care about, ruining it for normal users to even see.
Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#8Facebook has an option to “See fewer posts like this”. Select the three dots icon on the upper right corner of a post (mobile app) to see it. It doesn’t notify the person that you’ve chosen to not see their posts, so there’s no social risk in clicking it. I use it liberally and it works. I check Facebook maybe a couple times a month and almost never see anything I don’t want to see any more.
How does Facebook's engine score similarity between posts, exactly?
Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#9I'd like to propose an "informative" button and a "political" button so that I could ask to see things that are useful & intelligent but have nothing to do with politics.
Re: Please Bring Back Our Downvotes: Society Desperately Needs It
#10On my social site we have over 160 different reactions, it's a constantly evolving thing reflecting current trends and memes etc (we also had them long before FB). But the one thing that's really interesting is out of all the 'negative' reactions the 'dislike' was ALWAYS taken personally, people used to qualify it with a comment 'disliking the post, not you' etc. And if they didn't the OP would take it personally. Bu…
Dislike is more emotionally loaded. It's also ambiguous - do you dislike the comment, or do you dislike the commenter ? You can't "disagree the commenter"
What if the "New post" form required users to choose between "Like/Dislike" or "Other people need to see this/Other people don't need to see this" for their posts' rating? That way it separates the content's "likeability" from people's desire to spread it. I'm thinking of things like Tiananmen Square protest aftermath photos: people don't want to "like" it, but I'm sure they'd agree that people need to see them.