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Re: Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display

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Post by sp332 »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #17
OliverM wrote: post #8

I was pretty excited by this, so I went to pre-order. On the add-ons page, there are some nice additions like a leap motion controller. But there's also this: 2D-to-3D Conversion: 1000 Credits Convert 2D images into 3D depth images for holographic display. +$150.00 2D-to-3D Conversion: 100 Credits Convert 2D images into 3D depth images for holographic display. +$20.00 There's no mention of this type of per-interactio…

This is only for converting 2d photos to 3d. If you have photos shot using portrait mode on Iphone/Galaxy/Pixel, they have a local tool that extracts depth info. AFAICT that is free, although it requires at least a GTX1650 for some reason.

The iPhone captures depth when you take the photo. So the data just needs to be extracted, not generated from scratch.

Re: Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display

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Post by OliverM »

beowulfey wrote: post #19
OliverM wrote: post #8

I was pretty excited by this, so I went to pre-order. On the add-ons page, there are some nice additions like a leap motion controller. But there's also this: 2D-to-3D Conversion: 1000 Credits Convert 2D images into 3D depth images for holographic display. +$150.00 2D-to-3D Conversion: 100 Credits Convert 2D images into 3D depth images for holographic display. +$20.00 There's no mention of this type of per-interactio…

I mean, it's a 3D display. You need 3D things to use it. This is just a convenient service for converting your own 2D images. You can always bring your own 3D models/videos/etc into it, you don't need to pay them to do that. I personally don't see anything wrong with this.

There's no mention anywhere on their product page that you'll need to pay additional fees to convert 2d images to 3d to display them, or that you can perform this service yourself with a bit less convenience (which I'd be perfectly happy with).

Re: Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display

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Post by sp332 »

errantspark wrote: post #10
robbedpeter wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Games, 3d modeling, novel UI - better than 1080p resolution and 60hz refresh means the experience could actually be good, and not feel like a cheap hacky "pepper's ghost" type trick. That price feels right, and the product is pretty damn cool, imo.

This doesn't have better than 1080p res does it? I didn't see mention of a refresh rate anywhere either but the screen this uses is 2048 x 1536 and it purports 100 views so the actual image resolution is likely on the order of 200 x 150. I imagine it feels a bit better than that since you're seeing multiple images. Also note that the hologram only appears 3D in one plane, if you move above or below the plane the illu…

The Portrait is the smallest one they make. There's also a 15" version with 4k inputs for $3,000 and a 32-inch version without a listed price.

The illusion doesn't have multiple vertical layers, but it still looks 3D if you are off-angle. You just see the same image(s) up there that you would if you bent down. Turning your head flattens the image though.

Re: Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display

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Post by sp332 »

OliverM wrote: post #23
beowulfey wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it's a 3D display. You need 3D things to use it. This is just a convenient service for converting your own 2D images. You can always bring your own 3D models/videos/etc into it, you don't need to pay them to do that. I personally don't see anything wrong with this.

There's no mention anywhere on their product page that you'll need to pay additional fees to convert 2d images to 3d to display them, or that you can perform this service yourself with a bit less convenience (which I'd be perfectly happy with).

Why would they mention things they don't sell on the product page? Do you expect Photoshop to mention "oh you could use something cheaper made by someone else"?

Re: Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display

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Post by perryizgr8 »

sp332 wrote: post #21
perryizgr8 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is only for converting 2d photos to 3d. If you have photos shot using portrait mode on Iphone/Galaxy/Pixel, they have a local tool that extracts depth info. AFAICT that is free, although it requires at least a GTX1650 for some reason.

The iPhone captures depth when you take the photo. So the data just needs to be extracted, not generated from scratch.

Yeah that's why I can't understand why they need a dedicated GPU.

Re: Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display

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Post by asah »

bought during the crowdfunding and they delivered...

hardware was great but the software was a useless mess and I donated them.

once again, hardware folks trying to design software, is like fish trying to design bicycles.

(so many basic things wrong including proprietary software, lack of cross-platform support, etc etc etc, I didn't even bother trying to catalog them all)

(what did I expect? oh, I dunno... in 2021... WebGL and three.js and a bunch of flat file HTML demos that work right in major browsers on a raspberry pi, mac or pc laptop...)

Re: Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display

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Post by jffry »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #26
sp332 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPhone captures depth when you take the photo. So the data just needs to be extracted, not generated from scratch.

Yeah that's why I can't understand why they need a dedicated GPU.

See jaywalk's reply to you from earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27982727

It sounds like the discrete GPU is only needed for specific things which seem like they could reasonably need a discrete GPU

(We're both talking about the "Minimum Requirements" section on https://lookingglassfactory.com/product/portrait, in the bottom right of the page below the big blue buy button)

Re: Looking Glass Portrait – Holographic Display

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Post by beowulfey »

OliverM wrote: post #23
beowulfey wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it's a 3D display. You need 3D things to use it. This is just a convenient service for converting your own 2D images. You can always bring your own 3D models/videos/etc into it, you don't need to pay them to do that. I personally don't see anything wrong with this.

There's no mention anywhere on their product page that you'll need to pay additional fees to convert 2d images to 3d to display them, or that you can perform this service yourself with a bit less convenience (which I'd be perfectly happy with).

They make the types of things that can be displayed on it pretty clear on their “Use Cases” page, IMO. I would not expect a 2D image to inherently show up on a 3D display; otherwise, what would the point be?

Maybe your mindset is more indicative of the general population, but I do think most people understand that 3D holograms and 2D photos are different and would not expect a photo to suddenly have 3D properties on the display as if by magic (perhaps that is hoping too much though).

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