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I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by tehjoker »

Datagenerator wrote: post #72
mastrsushi wrote: post #24

“ The company kept saying we will be more productive at the office. That's the opposite of what I am seeing. My team is now taking longer for cards, and the amount of time wasted in the office is ridiculous. The number of people, mindless walking around, chit-chatting in cubicles, going out for lunch/ coffee breaks just to fill in the time is a joke” You mean congregating like actual people. Not making snacks in your…

Also some people like to do real work and deliver value instead of stealing time.

Time is something being stolen from employees. We have one life to live. A company isn't even alive.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by vinni2 »

One thing I noticed is that while more experienced people are productive working from home, it is devastating for fresh starting employees. Work from home eliminates learning through osmosis. If anyone has a work around this let me know. I am surprised no one else has mentioned it here.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by thefz »

I can feel the "I invested in a nice work environment" part a lot.

At home I have an insanely comfortable chair, very nice keyboard and mouse, two stellar 27'' displays on a very large desk. At work none of the above plus a shitty 2010-era work computer with a 5400rpm rotational drive that takes at least 20 minutes to boot and 10 to open visual studio alone.

Plus at home I can listen to the news while doing mundane work tasks like replying to tickets and emails, have some relaxing music on, access to my whole kitchen, and so on.

Commuting one hour each way sucks hard too. I hope we'll never go back to full office work, I feel like I got my life back.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by kaibee »

01100011 wrote: post #107
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #4

> If you like/prefer going to the office that is fine. I am not trying to say we should all be remote. Companies should offer FLEXIBILITY to let employees choose where to work from. That doesn’t work. I prefer working in the office, but only if the rest of my team is actually there with me. If some people are remote, then we have to do Zoom meetings, so I may as well be remote too.

Are you in SW? Over the last 20ish years of being a SWE, most of the time I had the option to work 40-100% from home. That's as an embedded SWE, which often means I'm dealing with HW. I just setup remote controls and measurement devices and WFH. I keep hearing people talk like they're going to be forced to sit at a desk 100% of the time. Is that really the case?

There's a pretty massive 0-1 difference in weekly WFH.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by beltsazar »

void_mint wrote: post #3

Some people like things. Some people don't like things. Can we just accept that different people are different and move on?

But some people like to discuss things that some people like but some people don't like. Actually, most things are not universally liked or disliked (except ice cream).

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by cgsmith »

Nbox9 wrote: post #37

Wow, that seems like a terrible place to work. Why is he going to a daily meeting if he doesn’t have to pay attention to the meeting? Why is there not an incentive to complete more than one card a day? If one card can take as little as two hours it seems like a massive waste to expect someone to only do one card. Why doesn’t he have proper equipment? If you spend XXX,XXX a year for an employee it makes sense to spend…

I realized that the OP can correct these actions himself. If he is in a useless meeting then he should speak up and work towards changing that policy.

If he doesn't have good equipment he could work with management to lobby for better equipment or bring his own there.

Instead of working for 4 hours then "doing whatever" he could make meaningful changes in the organization but he chooses not too.

Maybe it isn't a terrible place to work. Maybe he is a terrible employee.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by CephalopodMD »

I just want my own office. That's all. I'd be pretty okay with going in if I had my own office with 4 walls.

First job of my career, they told me I would have an office of my own. First day I come back do for full time (I had interned there too with my own office), they tell me they're switching buildings to go open office in about a month's time. I got a precious few weeks with a personal office, and then it was all gone. I hated this change of scenery mmediately, but I guess I got used to it after a few years.

Working from home took me back to that zen. I didn't even know how much I missed it - how much I needed my own space to feel productive.

I've since changed jobs, and I kinda dread having to go to the open office nightmare once this is all over. The facilities are way nicer than my last job, but it's still an open office.

Open. Office. As. Implemented. In. Our. Industry. Is. Stupid.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by lmm »

MattGaiser wrote: post #58
mastrsushi wrote: post #24

“ The company kept saying we will be more productive at the office. That's the opposite of what I am seeing. My team is now taking longer for cards, and the amount of time wasted in the office is ridiculous. The number of people, mindless walking around, chit-chatting in cubicles, going out for lunch/ coffee breaks just to fill in the time is a joke” You mean congregating like actual people. Not making snacks in your…

Why is chatting with colleagues about the sports team better than me making snacks?

Because to make something actually useful (rather than something technically perfect but useless) your team needs to be the kind of gestalt entity that chatting about the sports team helps to create?
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