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High-End Gaming PCs Banned in Six US States

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Re: High-End Gaming PCs Banned in Six US States

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Post by tehjoker »

fridif wrote: post #7
jimbob45 wrote: post #4

I fail to see how a progressive residential energy tax wouldn’t have been the better option but I’m super jacked to see progress being made, even if it is a tad misguided.

"I am super jacked to see progress being made in controlling the moral failings of certain humans, even if it has to be through banning the sale of alcohol nationwide."

Alcohol is a good that is enjoyed by huge numbers of people for pleasure and to escape pain. It can also be produced from basically any foodstuff that contains starch. I don't think high power PCs fits into the same category.

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Post by TheMightyLlama »

Meandering wrote: post #28
fridif wrote: post #5

It feels wrong to ban the sale of a product on the basis that "it might be used on the electrical grid". There is nothing stopping me from buying a PC and running it on my own off grid solution. If the power companies don't like my power consumption, they should simply implement solutions on their end, like charging me more money proportional to my usage.

It seems that charging a premium on energy use beyond a certain threshold would be far more effective. The carbon-cost of investigating high-end consumer electronics might actually be more than the few PCs that would be purchased.

Similar to how broadband is charged? On the flipside of that, energy users could also have their energy throttled based on the number of consumers in the household.

You have x energy credits as part of the package, if you don't want to pay over that then your energy will, of course, be throttled.

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Post by aaron-santos »

Lazare wrote: post #22
onion2k wrote: post #12

Previous discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27954946 The top comment explains why this is probably a good thing.

Although the top comments TO that top comment seem to be explaining that the top comment is wrong, and it's probably a bad thing. ...I feel like this topic is oddly confusing.

This is HackerNews. Either the top comment will support TFA and replies will refute the top comment, or the top comment will refute TFA. I can't think of a major story where that wasn't the case. That's kinda the shtick here.

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Post by dageshi »

chroem- wrote: post #31
Synaesthesia wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but gaming PC's are far more useful

Are they? With cryptocurrencies I can at least conduct commerce. With gaming PCs, I can... play violent videogames?

yes, the violent video games are fun, life is also about having fun.

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Post by mlindner »

jchw wrote: post #20

Not really. The regulations also hit me as relatively reasonable, seemingly having exemptions for highly expandable devices, and largely being concerned with idle energy usage. Furthermore, this was known a long time in advance and is the reasoning for the ATX12VO standard that appeared in 2019. https://twitter.com/JayzTwoCents/status/1420206010317230081

That person is misreading the regulations. It's not about idle power consumption.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27957381

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Post by arc-in-space »

colordrops wrote: post #29
frostburg wrote: post #9

In this specific instance the consumer is being done a favor by being prevented from buying terrible prebuilts, but the law is absurd.

What's wrong with the prebuilts? Price vs performance?

Price vs... price. You can nearly always build a more suitable PC for cheaper(potentially with the extra steps of paying someone to build it for you). Though recently I've heard of a distortion where apparently due to high GPU prices, some prebuilds' value was more fair.

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Post by speedgoose »

lalaland1125 wrote: post #8
garyfirestorm wrote: post #2

Yeah. PCs which consume high power when in idle state.

Which includes a lot of PCs with beefy GPUs. Nvidia in particular has a lot of issues with idle power usage for their cards.

So Nvidia will finally fix the issue worldwide thanks to this local law.
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