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High-End Gaming PCs Banned in Six US States

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Re: High-End Gaming PCs Banned in Six US States

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At a minimum, at least this is ideologically consistent with wanting to ban bitcoin, since both consume approximately the same order of magnitude of energy.

Yes but gaming PC's are far more useful

Are they? With cryptocurrencies I can at least conduct commerce. With gaming PCs, I can... play violent videogames?

Re: High-End Gaming PCs Banned in Six US States

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post #4

I fail to see how a progressive residential energy tax wouldn’t have been the better option but I’m super jacked to see progress being made, even if it is a tad misguided.

"I am super jacked to see progress being made in controlling the moral failings of certain humans, even if it has to be through banning the sale of alcohol nationwide."

I fail to see how this is an attack on people’s moral failings. PC makers can improve their idle energy usage and get back into the market. This seems no different from regulating the efficiency or emissions of fridges.

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To reduce emissions, they've started targeting the gaming industry? The meat industry emits orders of magnitude more pollution (even relative to the number of users of each)! Obviously, politicians would lose favor for targeting the meat industry, and thus have avoided fixing measures which would actually reduce emissions. > They list consoles with taking a bulk of the emissions at 66%, and desktop computers at 31%.…

Not to mention meat is only 3% of emissions in the U.S. (of which the U.S. is the largest producer of emissions on a per capita basis). So if these gaming computers are a few orders of magnitude less than that (at idle speeds) it shows how ridiculous this is. Not to mention that these systems will just be shipped to the other 44 states (they aren't exactly dismantling them) so it's really just shuffling the problem elsewhere.

Re: High-End Gaming PCs Banned in Six US States

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post #3

To reduce emissions, they've started targeting the gaming industry? The meat industry emits orders of magnitude more pollution (even relative to the number of users of each)! Obviously, politicians would lose favor for targeting the meat industry, and thus have avoided fixing measures which would actually reduce emissions. > They list consoles with taking a bulk of the emissions at 66%, and desktop computers at 31%.…

If you let the uses of electricity become politicized, don’t be surprised when your electricity consumption gets banned. Bitcoin mining is no more useless than video gaming.

Re: High-End Gaming PCs Banned in Six US States

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post #30
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To reduce emissions, they've started targeting the gaming industry? The meat industry emits orders of magnitude more pollution (even relative to the number of users of each)! Obviously, politicians would lose favor for targeting the meat industry, and thus have avoided fixing measures which would actually reduce emissions. > They list consoles with taking a bulk of the emissions at 66%, and desktop computers at 31%.…

My guess is the exemption is to tend to corporate interests? Absurd. Its a law about how much energy PCs can use. Consoles aren't exempt; they're just not PCs. They'd probably be allowed anyway because the law is about how much energy is used when the machine is idle, and consoles are pretty efficient when they're not doing much.

> Its a law about how much energy PCs can use. Consoles aren't exempt; they're just not PCs.

I don't understand what distinction you're making -- the Earth is getting polluted all the same. It's still an exemption.

Consoles would likely still be allowed -- but that's more fair and future-proof.

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