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I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by MattGaiser »

Nbox9 wrote: post #37

Wow, that seems like a terrible place to work. Why is he going to a daily meeting if he doesn’t have to pay attention to the meeting? Why is there not an incentive to complete more than one card a day? If one card can take as little as two hours it seems like a massive waste to expect someone to only do one card. Why doesn’t he have proper equipment? If you spend XXX,XXX a year for an employee it makes sense to spend…

> Why is he going to a daily meeting if he doesn’t have to pay attention to the meeting?

Attendance is not usually optional for standup.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by neolog »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #4

> If you like/prefer going to the office that is fine. I am not trying to say we should all be remote. Companies should offer FLEXIBILITY to let employees choose where to work from. That doesn’t work. I prefer working in the office, but only if the rest of my team is actually there with me. If some people are remote, then we have to do Zoom meetings, so I may as well be remote too.

Likewise, people who prefer working from home would rather not be sidelined by people working in office.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by gorbachev »

Most of the people posting these sort of articles fail to realize people have different preferences. Some people prefer WFH, some the office, some something in between.

Smart companies understand that and tailor their approach to fit. Dumb ones will dictate The One True Way and see half their people leave.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by inter_netuser »

vallavaraiyan wrote: post #46

Unfortunately, there is a drop in empathy and trust (to varying degrees) when interacting with those who one hasn't met in person. Being in office, talking to your teammates face-to-face is super valuable when the team members are new to each other. Once the rapport is established, let each person do what works the best for them.

i wonder how companies survived until now with all kinds of outsourcing, outstaffing, contractors in 5 different timezones, vendors in 12 different timezones, regulators in 3 different time zones, separate divisions for APAC, EMEA, US and so on...?

...but just can't handle remote employees that they have so much more control over?

Sounds like complete nonsense to me. If they can handle vendors located on a different continent - they can handle remote employees, full stop.

I'll believe the complaints about WFH when they'll ban offshoring.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by enriquto »

MattGaiser wrote: post #40
enriquto wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought hybrid meant that two days per week everybody goes to the lab, the rest of the days are remote.

Yes, but if everyone is out three days a week, in pretty much every meeting, at least one person is going to be out, making nearly all meetings virtual by default.

No, I mean monday and tuesday everybody goes there. This is how we are planning to do it from september and most people seem happy (especially new recruits).

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by MattGaiser »

zz865 wrote: post #30
rodgerd wrote: post #23

The saddest thing is the people giving him a hard time for "being entitled". How fucked have our mindsets been by decades of anti-union, anti-worker propoganda, elevating CEOs to philosopher-kings, that people argue for their own bondage?

There is no bondage but if you dont like the job, quit dont complain about it.

Why not complain and see if something can be changed first? Less work than rebooting your algo brain circuits with Leetcode.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by MattGaiser »

mastrsushi wrote: post #24

“ The company kept saying we will be more productive at the office. That's the opposite of what I am seeing. My team is now taking longer for cards, and the amount of time wasted in the office is ridiculous. The number of people, mindless walking around, chit-chatting in cubicles, going out for lunch/ coffee breaks just to fill in the time is a joke” You mean congregating like actual people. Not making snacks in your…

Why is chatting with colleagues about the sports team better than me making snacks?

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by inter_netuser »

gorbachev wrote: post #54

Most of the people posting these sort of articles fail to realize people have different preferences. Some people prefer WFH, some the office, some something in between. Smart companies understand that and tailor their approach to fit. Dumb ones will dictate The One True Way and see half their people leave.

i wonder how companies survived until now with all kinds of outsourcing, outstaffing, contractors in 5 different timezones, vendors in 12 different timezones, regulators in 3 different time zones, separate divisions for APAC, EMEA, US and so on...?

...but just can't handle remote employees that they have so much more control over?

I'll believe the complaints about WFH when they'll ban offshoring.

Re: I went to the office for the first time. I fucking hated it

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Post by inter_netuser »

shard972 wrote: post #35
zz865 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no bondage but if you dont like the job, quit dont complain about it.

just go starve and die, see i offered a solution, im helping.

just make your own billion dollar unicorn with somewhat stableish employment and affordable insurance premium.
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