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Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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It's stalking and harassment incidents like these that I'm reminded of any time someone tells me they've got nothing to hide.

any time someone tells me they've got nothing to hide. Has anyone ever actually uttered that particular strawman argument to you? I think it may be the second most commonly used one.

Must have heard it dozens of times by now. Many on Hacker News.

Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

#62
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Rich people don't go to jail.

Mostly because rich people can pay someone else to mail cockroaches to their enemies instead of getting their own hands dirty.

Damn, how do I get in to the cockroach mailing business, that sounds like a good gig.

Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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Rich people don't go to jail.

Rich people do go to jail. These are just some of the bigger, more famous fish - John Kapoor, Bernie Ebbers, Scott Sullivan, Jeff Skilling, Martin Grass, John and Timothy Rigas, Bernie Madoff, Michael Milken, Richard Scrushy, Joseph Nacchio, Martha Stewart, Ivan Boesky, Jordan Belfort, Sanjay Kumar, Allen Stanford, Raj Rajaratnam, Walter Forbes, Eddie Antar, Dennis Kozlowski, Sam Waksal, Alfred Taubman, Russell Wasen…

I assume you're being downvoted for the claim about Obama, so here's a source:

> The Untouchables: How the Obama administration protected Wall Street from prosecutions

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/23/untouc...

Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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I barely have enough time in a week to keep up with emails and meetings, without crashing exhausted at the end of every day. I can't imagine having time in my schedule to travel across the country, send live cockroaches over mail, plan to plant GPS trackers on vehicles, etc. I have to work on my time management!

Recently my bosses boyfriend got busted via apple messages on his computer for having an entirely separate life AND kids with another woman. He even gave them both the same pet names!

She was traumatized but once she dumped him and was able to laugh about it she was very surprised at how he had the time to keep up both lives. He would even go with them each to visit their families on separate weekends, when he told the other girlfriend he was traveling for work. Helped them both install furniture, do chores around the houses, volunteer coached one of the kid's basketball teams.

My biggest takeaway was "why the heck would anyone ever want to do that, and how would they have enough time?"

Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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post #28

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Rich people don't go to jail.

The "former eBay employee" was pretty high up in eBay security operations and also a former police Captain and they don't come cheap. He's less rich than the CEO but can definitely afford more than the paltry $15,000 fine.

I have felt for awhile that all societies fees/fines should be tied to income/asset level.

Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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Impressive how they managed to nail seven underlings for doing it (five plead guilty; two went to trial[0]) but not CEO Devin Wenig for ordering[1] it, instead giving him a $57 million golden parachute straight into GM's Cruise. I wonder if Wenig being CEO of Thomson Reuters Markets from 2008 to 2011 has any effect on the way Reuters reports on this eBay scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Wenig [0]: https:/…

"While there’s no suggestion in court papers that Wenig knew of the plot, prosecutors say his angry emails triggered the scheme, and they play a central role in the narrative spelled out by the government. "Take her down," Wenig is alleged to have written in response to a post by the blogger." That would be the smoking gun, but who's alleging it? Article didn't say.

"... but who is alleging it? Article didn't say."

Initially the Government alleged it.

The Government secured criminal convictions. Now the Steiners' lawyers are alleging it in a civil case. Wenig is a named defendant.

https://www.scapicchiolaw.com/pdf/Steiner.pdf

See pages 15 and 19.

Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rich people do go to jail. These are just some of the bigger, more famous fish - John Kapoor, Bernie Ebbers, Scott Sullivan, Jeff Skilling, Martin Grass, John and Timothy Rigas, Bernie Madoff, Michael Milken, Richard Scrushy, Joseph Nacchio, Martha Stewart, Ivan Boesky, Jordan Belfort, Sanjay Kumar, Allen Stanford, Raj Rajaratnam, Walter Forbes, Eddie Antar, Dennis Kozlowski, Sam Waksal, Alfred Taubman, Russell Wasen…

I assume you're being downvoted for the claim about Obama, so here's a source: > The Untouchables: How the Obama administration protected Wall Street from prosecutions https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/23/untouc...

Not because of the Obama (or Trump or the number of other presidents who have protected the wealthy). The number of famous names is easily matched by the conviction rulings in any given city by those of modest or minimal means.

Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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any time someone tells me they've got nothing to hide. Has anyone ever actually uttered that particular strawman argument to you? I think it may be the second most commonly used one.

my mother, my best friend, multiple co-workers and ex girlfriends. Even one person who grew up under the Warsaw Pact, and defected. He would say it, even when he did have something to hide, because he knew that the powers that be could always use something against you. Also known as CYA.

I believe Stalin said "Show me the man, I'll show you the crime."

If this person grew up under that legacy, he knew that they could take anything and use it to incriminate you, if they wanted you gone.

But that doesn't mean you have to help them.

Re: Former eBay employee gets 18 months in prison for cyberstalking campaign

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"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest? With a sword, ideally."

The same thought occurred. And, even if prosecutors correctly thought that this was a waste of time to take to trial, GM saying nope "nothing here" doesn't, shall we say, impress me.

Yikes, maybe now is a good time to short GM.
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