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Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Since Cutts isn't at liberty to say I think I'll take this one for him. This guy did really dumb stuff with Adwords or Adsense and got caught. Everyone wants a piece of the Google pie and Google wants no one to have it too easily, or their integrity goes to the shitter. Think about what you could do with a tiny bit of programming knowledge and keyword knowledge to make money using these service. Then try it and get b…

Even assuming the OP pulled some stunt with AdWords (and this is just an assumption that you're putting forth, without any evidence whatsoever), does it justify wiping out that guy's entire online existence? His photos? His emails? His documents? This is like sentencing someone to death for shoplifting. GMail, Picasa, etc. are not about AdWords; they're a means for people to connect with each other. Unless, of course…

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Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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While I am sure that there are people that try to game the system- there should at least be a warning or some way for appeal. I am extremely upset that Google took MY domain schema.org without even any attribution at all to my project OpenDomain. I have been too afraid to say anything because I also might get 'removed'. PLEASE show me that Gooogle still supports open source and at least acknowledge my contribution

Can someone tell me why this is marker -1 points? This is a valid comment.

It's off topic. Read the HN guidelines.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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zip his his data, close the account. even if he did some serious TOS violation, it's still his data. (or isn't it?)

It depends on whether his violation of the TOS involved him stealing data he shouldn't be allowed to have.

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Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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I talked to the person with this complaint, then looked into it myself. The account was suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service. After digging into the situation, my personal opinion is that Google took appropriate action. I'm sorry that I can't go into more detail.

How about giving your users 48 hours notice before you take any action? Too much to ask?

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Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Just use an e-mail client: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799

Gmail only lets you download so many messages at once. It takes a very long time.

Not in IMAP.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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> FWIW Not much. They're only doing damage control. I wonder whether Matt Cutts is on holiday or something, by the way..

I talked to the person with this complaint, then looked into it myself. The account was suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service. After digging into the situation, my personal opinion is that Google took appropriate action. I'm sorry that I can't go into more detail.

hi. someone on twitter sent me a link to this. is this about my situation? because if it is let me say to "boneslf" if he is the correct person, i don't know a goddam thing about computers let alone the "tiny bit of programming knowledge and keyword knowledge to make money" scamming google products. let me be clear about that. and also "jellicle" makes my point exactly and so do a few others on here. also, i've sent an update to the few contacts i have made at google, but they haven't responded. i found out two days ago that this week the fbi raided an apt in my building connected with anonymous and hauled away computers. like i said, and like i told google yesterday, i don't know enough about computers to know whether or not it's plausible that this could have something to do with my issue, or if they would hack into my google account for some reason, but i do know that my router had "dns poisoning" last week and that's when the internet started acting up. it might be crazy for me to suspect that the fbi case has anything to do with this, but i would know if google would talk to me. also, in my opinion, nothing would warrant what they have done. unless i was knowingly violating some term of service. which i don't think anyone at this point could possibly think that i was. i never even sent out group email or had any of my picasa folders public.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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I talked to the person with this complaint, then looked into it myself. The account was suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service. After digging into the situation, my personal opinion is that Google took appropriate action. I'm sorry that I can't go into more detail.

hi. someone on twitter sent me a link to this. is this about my situation? because if it is let me say to "boneslf" if he is the correct person, i don't know a goddam thing about computers let alone the "tiny bit of programming knowledge and keyword knowledge to make money" scamming google products. let me be clear about that. and also "jellicle" makes my point exactly and so do a few others on here. also, i've sent…

It definitely seems from the way that google is handling this (playing everything close to the vest, not letting you know anything) that it DOES have something to do with the FBI raid. In the US, this kind of cockiness and disregard for standard procedures of law and decency is often paired with Homeland Security shit. It doesn't seem very far fetched to say that google might have been told by the gov't that you are without a doubt some sort of terrorist or pro-wikileaks hacker so that the gov't can look at your information (without any kind of warrant, of course).

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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How is IMAP unreliable for backups? If you want to keep the tags, take a look at heliotrope[1], a personal email server with tag support that can sync Gmail accounts. [1]: https://github.com/wmorgan/heliotrope

I should say Thunderbird. Its IMAP implementation has always had issues downloading large volumes of mail for me. I also live in an area where latency is normally measured in seconds, so I think you and everyone downvoting me are living in a slightly different Internet from me. Heliotrope sounds like it might offer a good alternative without a six hour journey back to civilization.

Why would you use TB for backups? Use something designed for the job, like offlineimap. Well, or Heliotrope, which is brilliant (Sup, the other project by the same author is brilliant too, but it doesn't download, just reads a maildir).

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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> FWIW Not much. They're only doing damage control. I wonder whether Matt Cutts is on holiday or something, by the way..

I talked to the person with this complaint, then looked into it myself. The account was suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service. After digging into the situation, my personal opinion is that Google took appropriate action. I'm sorry that I can't go into more detail.

i just noticed matt's comments at the top. and i'm going to respond without getting angry and without using profanity. but matt, if you know what it is that google thinks i did, and after all of this, you are still not telling me, i am dumbfounded. if that is true then you really need to consider your terms of service and your public relations department. i'm getting about 5 messages a minute about this on twitter.
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