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Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

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Cook was palatable to both Wall Street and Apple employees while SJ was on medical leave. IMO, he's passed the test already. Everyone was willing to accept him then, back when there was serious doubt about whether Jobs would return after his leave. So there's no reason why they wouldn't be willing to accept him in a genuine succession event.

Seems to me that the post doesn't fully address the most important fact: "He cannot be replaced..." Gruber takes the paragraph to points about what Jobs' absence will do to the stock, and then takes the rest of the post to talk about the sourcing of the story and who might eventually replace him, but those strike me as ancillary issues at best. Jobs can't really be replaced, can he? Certainly Apple will continue to m…

To borrow a few concepts from Built To Last.

Jobs is a time teller. He can look up at the heavens, see the positioning of the stars in the industry and tell you exactly what the time is and for what. It's extremely rare for such time tellers to exist, and it's doubtful anyone exactly like Jobs will ever come along.

However, for any great company to stand the test of time it needs to answer the question who tells the time after the time-teller is gone? That's why a company built to last is like a clock. It is a part of the ethos and the system for it to tell the time, and that's the bit that makes all of the difference.

So, if he has spent the last decade making a clock, then Apple will survive him and the loss of Tim Cook, Ive, Schiller and almost anyone you think is crucial to Apple's success, because the ability to predict and act on those predictions would have been built into the structure of Apple itself.

I hope that made sense.

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not saying he can't possibly share the spotlight, but that Ive is not extroverted. (Tim Cook isn't a keynote kind of guy either for that matter.) Scott Forstall is pretty good in keynotes. It reminds me a bit of "Tactics of Mistake" -- an old SF novel by Gordon Dickson. No ONE person can replace Steve, but maybe two or three can.

You stated "I don't think Ive has even appeared in a speaking role in a keynote" and I was demonstrating this to be untrue. The idea that Steve Jobs can't be replaced by a single person is based on the requirement that Apple would have to continue on the exact same way. It won't. When a new CEO is appointed, it will be more of a "new normal".

This.

And I think took much is made of the "waking up and Steve is totally gone" scenario despite health issues. More likely (and hopefully for his health) it will be Steve voluntarily giving up more and more control as the successor is tried out. We may be seeing some of that now, although I would say wait for a major product launch without him.

That is how Gates did it when Ballmer took over Gates was still heavily involved doing what he had always done.

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jobs actually is sort of magical, at least at Apple. One thing Jobs has that will be hard to replicate is that fact that he's Steve Jobs. His decision is final and adored. Forstall or Cook won't try an end run to try to make something happen and hope that with enough corporate backing they can put Jobs's back against the wall. Won't happen. With any other CEO it could. It's not just the decisions that Jobs makes that…

You're correct, but I think this also is why it needs to be Cook. Essentially, Apple is a one product company. That product is "the mac". The "mac" comes in the form of a combination of software and hardware. OS X on Macintoshes is the past, iOS on iDevices is the future. All of that is Forstall (if I'm understanding things right.) And even then, the hardware is merely the box for the software. They make a very great…

Tim Cook's function at Apple is to take care of all the shit Steve doesn't want to be burdened with because Steve wants to spend all day obsessing on small product details like removing unneeded buttons. Steve is a designer. Jon Ive is a designer. Tim Cook afaik is not a designer. Who's going to take the prototype home and obsess over the tiniest details?

http://www.npr.org/2010/12/30/132488837/The-Behind-The-Scene...

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

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Gruber's dismissal of Ive as a candidate is pretty solidly based. I don't think Ive has even appeared in a speaking role in a keynote. I just don't think it's his kind of gig (and why should it be?)

Ive has certainly made appearances during keynote speeches before. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JLjldgjuKI&t=0m25s This idea that Steve can't possibly share the spotlight with Ive is absurd.

Awesome to see Jony Ive on stage, thanks for the link!

I'd really love to see him more often in keynotes. I think he has a way of grabbing the audience's attention that's on par with Steve Jobs, but in a totally different way. It's like seeing a modest and friendly genius talking about his work, it totally sucks you in. <3

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

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Speculation on Steve Jobs' successor strikes me as, well, pointless. The dynamic that drives Apple today is very much the same dynamic that drove it at the start: Woz and Jobs. We saw, in the late 80s and early to mid 90s what happens when the "Jobs" half of that dynamic is not there. The "Woz" dynamic, however, has had a good line of succession to cary it forward the entire time. Looking forward, it seems pretty cle…

Woz's lineage is in the overall engineering talent. Woz himself was no longer a major part of the company by the time the Mac was designed. Guys like Bud Tribble, Andy Hertzfeld, and Bill Atkinson were three of Woz's (many) successors already. It's not down to any individual exec to carry on Woz's legacy, because Woz was never an executive, not even an engineering executive. He only wanted to be an engineer. There are thousands of successors to Woz, and perhaps not a single successor to Jobs in the whole company.

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

#96

There is a better chance of Apple choosing its next CEO through a raffle of ten golden tickets hidden inside iPad boxes distributed around the globe than that they’d give the job to Eric Schmidt. Quote of the day right there.

The craziest part was mentioning Guy Kawasaki (Guy Kawasaki!) in the same context as Steve Jobs, Eric Schmidt, Jeff Bezos, and Larry Ellison.

Wow. Just goes to show the power of self-promotion.

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

#97

Speculation on Steve Jobs' successor strikes me as, well, pointless. The dynamic that drives Apple today is very much the same dynamic that drove it at the start: Woz and Jobs. We saw, in the late 80s and early to mid 90s what happens when the "Jobs" half of that dynamic is not there. The "Woz" dynamic, however, has had a good line of succession to cary it forward the entire time. Looking forward, it seems pretty cle…

Woz's lineage is in the overall engineering talent. Woz himself was no longer a major part of the company by the time the Mac was designed. Guys like Bud Tribble, Andy Hertzfeld, and Bill Atkinson were three of Woz's (many) successors already. It's not down to any individual exec to carry on Woz's legacy, because Woz was never an executive, not even an engineering executive. He only wanted to be an engineer. There ar…

> There are thousands of successors to Woz

That alone means a lot of authority. Woz embodies half of Apple's soul - the brilliantly unique hardware. It's true his half has been taken care by his successors, but it's still his half, although I suspect the PC-ness of current Macs would be offensive to him and he being on board would be our only chance of seeing an elegant x86-based computer, ever.

That said, he wouldn't probably be a good CEO. But he could be brought on board as an advisor. Apple has grown into a vastly different company since the Apple II days, but there is nobody else who can personify what Apple is all about.

Interestingly enough, every interview I see with him is mostly Apple-centric. Although he doesn't work there for about 24 years, this shows how closely associated with Apple he is in the eyes of the public.

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

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I think a bigger problem is that there is still no competition to Apple in the market in terms of design and the drive.

Dell, Samsung and others could have learned something already but amazingly they keep manufacturing crappy hardware locked to crappy software, probably just a tiny bit better than before the MBP era, but overall their approach and philosophy hasn't changed.

Sony looks good compared to them, but unfortunately it's too expensive (you'd rather buy a Mac for that money, wouldn't you?) plus Sony has never been a company that designs stuff with users in mind. Their hardware can be solid looking but there is usually nothing new or exceptionally well executed for the user.

Now that's the saddest part of the story for me, rather than when and who will replace Steve Jobs.

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

#99
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You stated "I don't think Ive has even appeared in a speaking role in a keynote" and I was demonstrating this to be untrue. The idea that Steve Jobs can't be replaced by a single person is based on the requirement that Apple would have to continue on the exact same way. It won't. When a new CEO is appointed, it will be more of a "new normal".

This. And I think took much is made of the "waking up and Steve is totally gone" scenario despite health issues. More likely (and hopefully for his health) it will be Steve voluntarily giving up more and more control as the successor is tried out. We may be seeing some of that now, although I would say wait for a major product launch without him. That is how Gates did it when Ballmer took over Gates was still heavily…

> That is how Gates did it when Ballmer took over

This is ... not obviously a recommendation.

Re: On Succeeding Steve Jobs

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're correct, but I think this also is why it needs to be Cook. Essentially, Apple is a one product company. That product is "the mac". The "mac" comes in the form of a combination of software and hardware. OS X on Macintoshes is the past, iOS on iDevices is the future. All of that is Forstall (if I'm understanding things right.) And even then, the hardware is merely the box for the software. They make a very great…

Tim Cook's function at Apple is to take care of all the shit Steve doesn't want to be burdened with because Steve wants to spend all day obsessing on small product details like removing unneeded buttons. Steve is a designer. Jon Ive is a designer. Tim Cook afaik is not a designer. Who's going to take the prototype home and obsess over the tiniest details? http://www.npr.org/2010/12/30/132488837/The-Behind-The-Scene..…

That's essentially why Cook will be the new CEO. No one will accept a "new Steve Jobs" in the Steve Jobs role, so trying to foist a new Steve Jobs onto the company -- and into the public eye -- would be an exercise in futility. People would rebel. People would doubt. People would question this person's every move. One slip-up or bad quarter, and people would be calling for his head; analysts would be publishing lengthy diatribes about how Apple had lost its way. Etc.

Apple has some amazing designers and engineers in the likes of Ive, Forstall, etc. It doesn't need to promote one of them to the top spot in order to extract the genius from them.

This is why Cook wins by default. He's a CEO Wall Street and employees will accept, and nobody's expecting him to have a Jobsian design aesthetic or artistic vision. But they're expecting his lieutenants to carry that torch while he keeps everyone and everything unified.

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