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Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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I talked to the person with this complaint, then looked into it myself. The account was suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service. After digging into the situation, my personal opinion is that Google took appropriate action. I'm sorry that I can't go into more detail.

I am sorry to hear that. I am just wondering why this is on HackerNews. But so be it. Did something happen to @thomasmonopoly account that he is not aware of? I got banned from Adsense just over a Year ago and I thought about making Noise. BUT I wanted to work WITH Adsense and Google. Why Burn Bridges? So I tried to use the proper channels. But very disappointing that I was Ignored the whole time. All I do/did was ma…

I just got permanently banned from Adwords a month ago too.

It took me 5 years to finally reach the minimum payout, and they banned my account right before the 2nd payout. I did not do any click fraud.

The only other explanation I can think of is "click bombing" but I did not have logs longer than a week and did not see anything unusual.

It is infuriating that not only did they steal $100 from me (it was stolen from me because I could've used the other advertisers I am using now during those months), but that I am banned without an explanation. And they have the gall to ask me to try out Adwords with a $100 coupon.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#153

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> FWIW Not much. They're only doing damage control. I wonder whether Matt Cutts is on holiday or something, by the way..

I talked to the person with this complaint, then looked into it myself. The account was suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service. After digging into the situation, my personal opinion is that Google took appropriate action. I'm sorry that I can't go into more detail.

zip his his data, close the account. even if he did some serious TOS violation, it's still his data. (or isn't it?)

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Sounds like a great service. Then I went to use it... it doesn't backup email?! I got my contacts and some random stuff that I didn't know I had (and don't care about). But where's my couple of gigs of email? Is there a different service for that?

There are scripts to do it via IMAP, but it takes a very long time and it's a bit of a pain to set up.

Just use an e-mail client:

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78799

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Google+ makes getting backup of all your data really easy ( https://www.google.com/takeout/ ). I'm really worried about Google horror stories but I like using their services, so I'll just settle with doing regular backups.

Don't you have to log in to use it? So this would be something you use before you're blocked.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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I think there's an important lesson here that you can take home right now: If your primary email is an @gmail.com address, you have your head firmly in the lion's mouth. You can backup your data. You can have fallback tools and services. You cannot backup your identity. And if that identity is controlled by Google, you are tying your online existence for the duration to the foibles of a publically traded company with…

The problem with having your own domain for email is the communication factor. When I tell someone my email is charles.lastname@gmail.com, there's no miscommunication. Worst case I have to spell out my last name, but generally if someone's asking for email they already have my last name. If you buy a domain, nowadays, you have few options with respect to getting an email that sounds legit, mature, and isn't long and/…

I have a short domain (xk7.net), doesn't cause any problems over the phone (occasionally people comment on the fact that I have my own domain/mail) and doesn't sound immature.

Although I was once told 'sorry, you must use a Hotmail, Yahoo! or Gmail address'...

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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I think there's an important lesson here that you can take home right now: If your primary email is an @gmail.com address, you have your head firmly in the lion's mouth. You can backup your data. You can have fallback tools and services. You cannot backup your identity. And if that identity is controlled by Google, you are tying your online existence for the duration to the foibles of a publically traded company with…

The problem with having your own domain for email is the communication factor. When I tell someone my email is charles.lastname@gmail.com, there's no miscommunication. Worst case I have to spell out my last name, but generally if someone's asking for email they already have my last name. If you buy a domain, nowadays, you have few options with respect to getting an email that sounds legit, mature, and isn't long and/…

This is only true depending on how seasoned a netizen someone is. True story: I have a friend of mine whom I once verbally communicated a (now long-gone) gmail address to, with Swedish pronounciation. The result was him smirking a bit, and some time later asking me if I got the pictures he sent to my "gaymail.com address". This could just as well have ended up being "geemail.com" or "yeemail.com" had I gone with English pronounciation. He just didn't know what google or gmail was. He doesn't use the net in the same ways we do.

But let's be realistic... it's not like the world of internet users suffered from a supposed problem with miscommunicated email addresses before "geemail.com" came around. We managed just fine.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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What about the .name TLD? I own (for now.. I'm not sure if that can be disputed if more people with my rather rare last name apply) lastname.name So - you can reach me, if I finally finish my migration and stop being a lazy bastard, at firstname@lastname.name - which is rather good imo. Sure, I've got other legacy addresses, but this could be a viable alternative to a gmail _identity_.

Actually the domain you own is almost certainly firstname.lastname.name, but the email is setup so firstname@lastname.name works. It's particular to the .name TLD.

No, I certainly own (and the convention you talk about is why I'm not sure if it holds up forever) for now the domain mylastname.name.

I found a registrar that sold this domain to me, anything you throw at it ends up on one of my machines.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#159

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I talked to the person with this complaint, then looked into it myself. The account was suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service. After digging into the situation, my personal opinion is that Google took appropriate action. I'm sorry that I can't go into more detail.

While I am sure that there are people that try to game the system- there should at least be a warning or some way for appeal. I am extremely upset that Google took MY domain schema.org without even any attribution at all to my project OpenDomain. I have been too afraid to say anything because I also might get 'removed'. PLEASE show me that Gooogle still supports open source and at least acknowledge my contribution

Can someone tell me why this is marker -1 points? This is a valid comment.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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I think there's an important lesson here that you can take home right now: If your primary email is an @gmail.com address, you have your head firmly in the lion's mouth. You can backup your data. You can have fallback tools and services. You cannot backup your identity. And if that identity is controlled by Google, you are tying your online existence for the duration to the foibles of a publically traded company with…

This is probably a little hyperbolic. I have a gmail address and I don't expect it to disappear. If it does, however, I will still survive (after going through some temporary pain). I feel like you're telling me I shouldn't use a credit card because someone could steal my identity. Or that I shouldn't use closed-source software because my "freedom" is in jeopardy.

I'd recommend you use Free software because when it sucks (and all software sucks), you have a chance of actually fixing it.
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