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Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by ahefner »

naosouumapessoa wrote: post #130
sslayer wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ditched in the middle of Windows 7, with absolutely no regrets. Valve has made tremendous inroads in gaming with Proton, along with developers releasing for Linux, there really isn't a good excuse to stay with Microsoft.

> there really isn’t a good excuse to stay with Microsoft Except, if you run nvidia optimus laptop and have mixed display DPI. Every few months I try to run Arch on my recent laptop and it’s always a nightmare. I was hyped that 470 driver would fix wayland in nvidia (the only half decent way to fix mixed DPIs on Linux). Lo and behold, It’s still a buggy mess that made me crawl back to windows. Maybe on 570 I will be…

So don't do that, then.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by Goronmon »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #190
crazygringo wrote: post #166

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That makes no sense. By that logic, what are firefighters doing but censoring homes? What are koalas but a form of eucalyptus censorship? What is locking your front door but a form of censoring burglars? No, just no. Censorship is preventing the transmission of ideas , nothing more, nothing less. Deleting a file has nothing to do with transmission, and it's being done in response to a perceived threat, not its commun…

...I'm less sure of this. If Windows Defender was deleting any file named "Animal Farm.txt", that would be a form of censorship, right? It's preventing the transmission of a piece of political literature. Now, what if it was deleting "Animal Farm - The Video Game.exe"? Now, what if it was deleting the keygen for "Animal Farm - The Video Game"? What if the activation server for that game had gone offline, and this key…

If Windows Defender was deleting any file named "Animal Farm.txt", that would be a form of censorship, right? It's preventing the transmission of a piece of political literature.

I guess, in some ways, you could consider it censorship. But without evidence that its being done specifically to target certain types of speech, as opposed to a side effect from some other goal, I'm not sure it's a particularly useful label.

What is anti-virus software in general but "censorship" of people's abilities to distribute viruses to whoever they want? What is an adblocker but software that "censors" someone's ability to advertise in the most effective way possible?

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by UnFleshedOne »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #196
gruez wrote: post #105

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>I was told I was making stuff up and/or this is in 'best interest' I read the comment thread. It's unclear which comment said that you were "making stuff up". There's also zero matches for "best interest" (your direct quote). >that this only happens because these are 'uncommon applications'. Relatively speaking, winmerge and kdiff3 are quite uncommon, compared to the normal stuff that people have installed on their…

I admit and apologize for salty tone above. It is not very constructive, and I agree, and would like to elaborate. This isn't the first time such thing has happened and it won't be last. Windows has becoming more and more painful as Operating System as in operating the machine and has been trying to operate the user instead. The incidents I mentioned about Winmerge and Kdiff3 did happen with me and I stand by that. A…

Have you tried running anything on new Apple architecture -- even running your own apps built locally works half of the time, and that's _with_ the full moon out and correct number of goats dully sacrificed...

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by marcodiego »

gruez wrote: post #66
marcodiego wrote: post #5

I wonder if the MAFIAA can pressure software vendors to ban classes of software. I think agreements like: "We'll only make it legal to run our streaming service on your OS if you can prevent these specific set of software from running". I think this already happens with TV's but anyone knows if there is already pressure in this direction in the software world?

>I wonder if the MAFIAA can pressure software vendors to ban classes of software. What if the vendor just says "no"? Who's going to win in the court of public opinion when this hits the press? Besides, they don't seem to care that much, considering that very few people actually watch videos on their computers anymore. In case they do, it's through a browser which sandbox (at least on firefox) the decryption modules t…

The "court of public opinion" didn't prevented walled gardens on the mobile world. People wouldn't stop watching BigStudio if they didn't offer their service for a TV vendor, people would just buy from the vendor who bowed to the imposed conditions.

In Brazil, there's nothing legally preventing you from recording OTA TV but no big name TV vendor add a unencrypted record feature. You can find it on cheap digital decoders which have no support for streaming or apps. I don't think this is mere coincidence, I think streaming services and content producers already pressure TV vendors to not support "unwanted features"; in exchange, they gain the right to include some apps out-of-the-box.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by gruez »

hulitu wrote: post #168
gruez wrote: post #56

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>and you start to uncover Windows annoyances that you never knew existed because you were used to them and conditioned into thinking they were normal for so long ..which promptly get replaced with mac annoyances. Random ones off the top of my head: * closing a window (using the red x icon) doesn't close the app * overwriting a folder deletes existing contents, rather than merging them * weird scroll acceleration that…

> * closing a window (using the red x icon) doesn't close the app There are applications with more than one window. > * weird scroll acceleration that makes clicky scroll wheels unusable This is called "progress" or UI/UX or whatever name they have today for brain damage . Some years ago the Apple GUI was looking good. Then the replaced the window buttons with coloured circles. Guess which one is which ?

>There are applications with more than one window.

And windows handles it just fine. Clicking X on one window doesn't close the entire app.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by 0x0nyandesu »

hulitu wrote: post #160
0x0nyandesu wrote: post #75

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And this is why the first thing I do with winblows is disable defender. So much for that.

It serms that antiviruses today have only antifeatures. The last time i saw an antivirus detect malware was more than 10 years ago. Now the only protection against viruses is common sense, a good backup and another OS to recover what's left after the disaster strikes.

Honestly I've been over it for years. I do real work on Linux and MacOS. Windows is for a handful of games I can't play on Linux.

Everytime I try to use windows for work I end up with issues caused by windows update that blows out chunks of my work day.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by hulitu »

UnFleshedOne wrote: post #197
hulitu wrote: post #160

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It serms that antiviruses today have only antifeatures. The last time i saw an antivirus detect malware was more than 10 years ago. Now the only protection against viruses is common sense, a good backup and another OS to recover what's left after the disaster strikes.

The problem is that you also need backup bank accounts and probably a backup identity after disaster strikes...

This depends on your online presence. Even if malware touches my computer it has no access to bank accounts and the amount of personal info is low. I still have to find a better email provider than yahoo or gmail for receipts.

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Post by jaywalk »

rossmohax wrote: post #126

PUA == Potentially Unwanted Application. This is a class of application enterprises might not want to see on their computers. I bet there is a hidden registry key or something to allow PUA. If it was blocked on Home and Pro versions of Windows, then it is indeed odd.

It is indeed only Enterprise versions, and there is a simple PowerShell command to disable it:

  Set-MpPreference -PUAProtection Disabled

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by tomc1985 »

crazygringo wrote: post #166
kozak wrote: post #138

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People are downvoting the above comment for some reason, but what is this Windows Defender behavior if not a form of censorship?

That makes no sense. By that logic, what are firefighters doing but censoring homes? What are koalas but a form of eucalyptus censorship? What is locking your front door but a form of censoring burglars? No, just no. Censorship is preventing the transmission of ideas , nothing more, nothing less. Deleting a file has nothing to do with transmission, and it's being done in response to a perceived threat, not its commun…

I think you are holding far too strict a definition of the word related to "transmission". If I am prevented from reading data I want to read, because some entity has decided they don't want me to read it, how is that not censorship?

Also, where are you even getting that defintion anyway? Looking up nearly every form of the word 'censor' I can think of, nothing speaks specifically to the transmission of ideas. Rather, every definition I can find that makes sense focuses on deletion.

You could even argue that anti-virus is a form of voluntary censhorship.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by jaywalk »

MikeUt wrote: post #2

It's the official Microsoft stance that torrent software is considered PUA (potentially unwanted application) on Enterprise. Perhaps they're expanding that to consumer versions? They define PUA very vaguely, with rather disturbing language. Phrases like "safeguard productivity" and "help deliver delightful Windows experiences" are not what I would expect in security software documentation: Our PUA protection aims to…

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that most of the people with these issues are using pirated Enterprise versions of Windows, not trying to install a BitTorrent client on their work computers. It's definitely not impacting Home or Pro versions.
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