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Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by Someone1234 »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #61

When I mentioned in another thread this happening to other open source projects (winmerge, kdiff3) [0], I was told I was making stuff up and/or this is in 'best interest' of users and that this only happens because these are 'uncommon applications'. Its going to be amusing to read replies to this thread. Pardon the snark, but this is BS and its really sad to see this shitshow being defended. [0] https://news.ycombina…

> Its going to be amusing to read replies to this thread.

I feel like respondents did a good job in the previous thread explaining what is going on and why. Your summation of that interaction, tone then, and tone today seemingly suggests you've got a predetermined conclusion in mind and consider any other interpretation/explanation as inherently adversarial.

Or to phase this more simply: This isn't constructive. You should assume good faith in the people who respond to you, test your assumptions, rather than simply dismissing any insight as a blanket "defense."

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by bogwog »

malka wrote: post #98
kempbellt wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I set up a LAN box for my parents on a computer that my dad received for free. It came with Windows 10 on it, but wasn't very powerful - company's old hardware. After several...frustrating... hours of trying to talk them through things over the phone to get RDP working, just so I could install Docker to run some containers that didn't even work properly with networking, and having to call/text any time the machine th…

Gaming is my only use case with windows, and I am filled with deep hatred each time I have to boot this OS.

Which games do you play that don't work on Linux? Because I switched to it a long time ago and haven't looked back. Proton and Wine are excellent nowadays, and 99% of what I want to play works, with the rest usually just a short `protontricks ...` command away from working.

The only stuff that is completely broken is Easy Anticheat and BattleEye, but those will supposedly be working when the new Steam Deck starts shipping.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by bitwize »

moss2 wrote: post #17

Switching my home computer to Linux has had its problems since I'm an avid gamer, but the more news I read about Windows the less I regret that decision.

Whatever runtime Steam bundles with its games will soon grow almost as many irritating warts. Valve is apparently getting anticheat to work, which under Windows involves basically voluntarily installing a kernel-level rootkit so the game publisher can fully monitor your PC.

Ultimately the ideal setup will probably involve keeping a Windows machine around for gaming and using Linux for serious work. Or running Windows in a VM with PCI passthrough for the video card.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by malka »

bogwog wrote: post #152
malka wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gaming is my only use case with windows, and I am filled with deep hatred each time I have to boot this OS.

Which games do you play that don't work on Linux? Because I switched to it a long time ago and haven't looked back. Proton and Wine are excellent nowadays, and 99% of what I want to play works, with the rest usually just a short `protontricks ...` command away from working. The only stuff that is completely broken is Easy Anticheat and BattleEye, but those will supposedly be working when the new Steam Deck starts shi…

The last one that me reinstall windows was disco elysium

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by hulitu »

ethbr0 wrote: post #143
kozak wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are downvoting the above comment for some reason, but what is this Windows Defender behavior if not a form of censorship?

Judging. And it's impossible to build certain feature without judging. A lot of people here probably don't remember what email was like in the 90s/00s, before it got bad enough that Gmail's killer feature was (what we'd now call) cloud-enabled spam filtering. The distinction between judgement and censorship is the amount of user control. (1) Does the user know it happened? (2) Can the user override the decision?

1) no 2) no. So it seems a good idea to disable defender.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by bitwize »

gruez wrote: post #56
finalis wrote: post #40

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I used to think that too before I made the switch to macOS. Yes it was a learning curve initially, but it wasn't unmanageable, and you start to uncover Windows annoyances that you never knew existed because you were used to them and conditioned into thinking they were normal for so long. You'd be surprised how flexible your needs are when you aren't pigeonholing yourself.

>and you start to uncover Windows annoyances that you never knew existed because you were used to them and conditioned into thinking they were normal for so long ..which promptly get replaced with mac annoyances. Random ones off the top of my head: * closing a window (using the red x icon) doesn't close the app * overwriting a folder deletes existing contents, rather than merging them * weird scroll acceleration that…

> * closing a window (using the red x icon) doesn't close the app

Command-Q is your friend.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by smt88 »

zabatuvajdka wrote: post #108
thunderbong wrote: post #85

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This happened to me as well. Even when those keygens were in zipped files, Defender would flag them as malware and remove them automatically. The only solution I found to this was to keep the keygens in a password protected zipped files.

Interesting ideas here: how antivirus becomes a form of censorship. Maybe that’s an extreme view but it feels like now that Microsoft supplies it’s own defender app. And like all forms of martial law beginning as a way to protect citizens! I also noticed that with win10 when apps crash it sends the data to Microsoft—as though they can fix 3rd party apps for us. Yeesh. I think I’ll skip out on Windows 11 TYVM.

This is incredibly hyperbolic. If you don't like Defender's default behavior (which is sane for the 99.999% of users who are not devs), turn it off or use a different OS.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by smt88 »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #137
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #76

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...or you just disable Windows Defender.

Which you can’t do permanently anymore.

You can permanently disable it with policies.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-permanently-disable-windo...

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by hulitu »

0x0nyandesu wrote: post #75
habibur wrote: post #64

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That's fall out from the 90s. People hunted for keygen.exe for their sharewares. And some rouge sites will collect many keygens, attach backdoor program with those and then distribute from their site or over bit-torrent. Anti-virus then would scan those files. Looks like modern ones simply delete any such named file without scanning.

And this is why the first thing I do with winblows is disable defender. So much for that.

It serms that antiviruses today have only antifeatures. The last time i saw an antivirus detect malware was more than 10 years ago. Now the only protection against viruses is common sense, a good backup and another OS to recover what's left after the disaster strikes.
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