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Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

willis936 wrote: post #131
gruez wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>and you start to uncover Windows annoyances that you never knew existed because you were used to them and conditioned into thinking they were normal for so long ..which promptly get replaced with mac annoyances. Random ones off the top of my head: * closing a window (using the red x icon) doesn't close the app * overwriting a folder deletes existing contents, rather than merging them * weird scroll acceleration that…

>* overwriting a folder deletes existing contents, rather than merging them Wait. If there truly is not a setting for this then it makes finder unusable as a file explorer and arguably the entire OS. Recursive merge is one of the most fundamental things a personal computer does.

There is in fact a workaround, hold down option while copying the folder. Note that there needs to be at least one subitem in common.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by auxym »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #61

When I mentioned in another thread this happening to other open source projects (winmerge, kdiff3) [0], I was told I was making stuff up and/or this is in 'best interest' of users and that this only happens because these are 'uncommon applications'. Its going to be amusing to read replies to this thread. Pardon the snark, but this is BS and its really sad to see this shitshow being defended. [0] https://news.ycombina…

the Nim compiler is also getting flagged by Defender: https://github.com/nim-lang/Nim/issues/17820

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by ethbr0 »

kozak wrote: post #138
zabatuvajdka wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting ideas here: how antivirus becomes a form of censorship. Maybe that’s an extreme view but it feels like now that Microsoft supplies it’s own defender app. And like all forms of martial law beginning as a way to protect citizens! I also noticed that with win10 when apps crash it sends the data to Microsoft—as though they can fix 3rd party apps for us. Yeesh. I think I’ll skip out on Windows 11 TYVM.

People are downvoting the above comment for some reason, but what is this Windows Defender behavior if not a form of censorship?

Judging. And it's impossible to build certain feature without judging.

A lot of people here probably don't remember what email was like in the 90s/00s, before it got bad enough that Gmail's killer feature was (what we'd now call) cloud-enabled spam filtering.

The distinction between judgement and censorship is the amount of user control. (1) Does the user know it happened? (2) Can the user override the decision?

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by l30n4da5 »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #86
l30n4da5 wrote: post #18

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>> Maybe this will help some of the more savvy users realize that Windows should be relegated to a virtual machine for when you need a specific Windows app that doesn't run under Wine, and never given access to real hardware. hurr durr windows bad linux good im so smart. you're practically _soaked_ with condescending smarm. Caureful, or it'll rub off on innocent bystanders.

I don't particularly like the way you said it, but the sentiment is most definitely shared. It seems like this attitude is incredibly common in the Linux Desktop community and it is definitely not working in their favor.

ive seen this attitude from linux fanbois too many times at this point to be polite about it.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by microtonal »

MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #117
moss2 wrote: post #17

Switching my home computer to Linux has had its problems since I'm an avid gamer, but the more news I read about Windows the less I regret that decision.

I love Linux, but it's still like a glass house. One simple terminal command out of curiosity will basically force you to reinstall the OS. If you're response to that is "well you should know what you're doing before you run as sudo," all I can say is no. There is no reason why changing a DE, or installing certain software should make it nigh impossible to revert to previous changes short of being an expert or full r…

> I love Linux, but it's still like a glass house. One simple terminal command out of curiosity will basically force you to reinstall the OS.

Counterpoints:

* Fedora Silverblue provides an immutable base OS with atomic updates/rollbacks. Makes it hard to mess up your system to the point where it doesn't work.

* NixOS and Guix provide delarative system configuration with atomic updates/rollbacks.

* Even on a 'traditional' distribution, you can use something like btrfs or ZFS snapshots and rollback your changes if you have a tendency to destroy systems ;).

That said, Linux is not for everyone and it is completely fine to use macOS or Windows (as I write, I am using macOS on a MacBook).

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by tinus_hn »

zabatuvajdka wrote: post #108
thunderbong wrote: post #85

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This happened to me as well. Even when those keygens were in zipped files, Defender would flag them as malware and remove them automatically. The only solution I found to this was to keep the keygens in a password protected zipped files.

Interesting ideas here: how antivirus becomes a form of censorship. Maybe that’s an extreme view but it feels like now that Microsoft supplies it’s own defender app. And like all forms of martial law beginning as a way to protect citizens! I also noticed that with win10 when apps crash it sends the data to Microsoft—as though they can fix 3rd party apps for us. Yeesh. I think I’ll skip out on Windows 11 TYVM.

With the convenient excuse that Windows Defender is a separate app that is not part of Windows, of course.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by joshuaissac »

Subsentient wrote: post #104
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you ran Linux executables you torrented you'd have the exact same problem.

Yeah, but less likely frankly, because it's less likely the malware author would take the time to make a ransomware for Linux, though I know it's happened before. 1% of the market vs 80% of the market, which would you target? And of course, utilities being free on Linux negates the need almost entirely in any case.

> utilities being free on Linux negates the need almost entirely in any case

Some of these utilities are installed by running: curl hxxp://urlshortener.ly/Bde29al | sh

> Yeah, but less likely frankly, because it's less likely the malware author would take the time to make a ransomware for Linux

Linux is the dominant server OS. Enterprises are far more capable of paying ransoms than individuals.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by tinus_hn »

indigochill wrote: post #92
ethbr0 wrote: post #36

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I'd also be curious what happens if you rename them to {not-keygen}.exe I'd hope it wouldn't make a difference, but my experience with IT security thinking makes me bet the other way.

Yeah, I once circumvented gmail's antivirus detection by sending a (perfectly legitimate) installer executable as a txt file because gmail apparently just has/had a strict "no files with certain extensions" policy. And IIRC Zendesk applies the same rule to file attachments on support tickets. I had pitched for my team to build a tiny widget that would send attachments to virustotal, but it would have required a licen…

While this may sound like a dumb policy, the end result is exactly what you want, a system that makes it impossible to have you download executables without you being aware.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by mixmastamyk »

MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #117
moss2 wrote: post #17

Switching my home computer to Linux has had its problems since I'm an avid gamer, but the more news I read about Windows the less I regret that decision.

I love Linux, but it's still like a glass house. One simple terminal command out of curiosity will basically force you to reinstall the OS. If you're response to that is "well you should know what you're doing before you run as sudo," all I can say is no. There is no reason why changing a DE, or installing certain software should make it nigh impossible to revert to previous changes short of being an expert or full r…

Shouldn’t change major parts of the os unless you fully understand what you’re doing. Has been true on every os since the beginning.

I recommend Ubuntu Mate as something that works well for dev work with a minimum of tweaking needed.

Also, I always keep my data files on another partition so OS installs are not a worrisome operation.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by physicles »

ajoseps wrote: post #78
moss2 wrote: post #17

Switching my home computer to Linux has had its problems since I'm an avid gamer, but the more news I read about Windows the less I regret that decision.

recently switched off of Windows to using PopOS. Really impressed how everything kinda just worked out the box. I'm very excited to see if Valve's proton will push more people to Linux and in general, improve the desktop experience.

PopOS on a Thinkpad is the best Linux experience I’ve ever had, by far. The far-field microphone even works.
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