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Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by kozak »

Y_Y wrote: post #33
kozak wrote: post #28

I recently unpacked an old archive from the time I was making some shareware few decades ago. Windows Defender instantly ate all keygen.exe files from it. Those keygens were my own keygens for my own software (I wrote them myself and used them to generate keys for my customers back in the day).

Did you have catchy chiptunes and graffiti ANSI art?

I anticipated this question :)

No, it was just a plain Windows form, built from scratch using a then-popular Windows IDE. I think it was mostly triggered by the file name, maybe in combination with some crypto code inside.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by doctorsher »

malka wrote: post #98
kempbellt wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I set up a LAN box for my parents on a computer that my dad received for free. It came with Windows 10 on it, but wasn't very powerful - company's old hardware. After several...frustrating... hours of trying to talk them through things over the phone to get RDP working, just so I could install Docker to run some containers that didn't even work properly with networking, and having to call/text any time the machine th…

Gaming is my only use case with windows, and I am filled with deep hatred each time I have to boot this OS.

I agree completely. I have Windows at home for gaming, and Windows at work (because those are the laptops we get). It's rough. The only thing that makes this bearable is Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Side note: if you end up dual booting your gaming PC, please learn from my mistakes and disable Fast Startup before you do. Otherwise you're going to have a bad time.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by pebble »

sslayer wrote: post #23
moss2 wrote: post #17

Switching my home computer to Linux has had its problems since I'm an avid gamer, but the more news I read about Windows the less I regret that decision.

I ditched in the middle of Windows 7, with absolutely no regrets. Valve has made tremendous inroads in gaming with Proton, along with developers releasing for Linux, there really isn't a good excuse to stay with Microsoft.

Can you watch youtube videos with hardware acceleration yet?

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by ogurechny »

arsome wrote: post #27
tyingq wrote: post #15

Defender also doesn't like NirSoft's ProduKey. Which is irritating, as all it's doing is retrieving product keys. If you want to reinstall Windows, it's a pretty normal thing to want to do.

Many NirSoft utilities get detected. Not sure if it's still true, but back in the day it was surprisingly common to find them embedded in password stealing malware, it'd basically run a few different password dumpers, make a zip and send it off to an FTP site. Minimal software development knowledge necessary as the whole operation could be done from a batch script. Particularly bad malware too since anyone who revers…

Then wmic.exe should also be listed as PUA, as you can get the product key with it. Not even mentioning Powershell and CMD — average user never runs them, while bad people do that all the time. Their appearance in the process list is a sure sign that the system WUZ HAKKED.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

kempbellt wrote: post #113
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it matter? So they could try and change my mind?[0] That I prefer the way Windows works is sufficient reason to continue to use it instead of Linux Desktop. Why is not really relevant. [0] I've played that game a thousand times and it is always an exercise in frustration. No thanks.

"Windows good, you can't change my mind!" doesn't add anything of value to the conversation, especially for people who aren't dead-set either way. If you swear by windows, you probably have good reasons. People who like windows would love to hear them. Otherwise, why partake in a conversation that frustrates you at all if you don't want to argue in support of your opinion? +1 for the windows camp: Personally, I haven…

> "Windows good, you can't change my mind!" doesn't add anything of value to the conversation

I was making a specific counterpoint to the argument "there really isn't a good excuse to stay with Microsoft". My point needed no elaboration to be valid.

> Otherwise, why partake in a conversation that frustrates you at all if you don't want to argue in support of your opinion?

Because in my experience said "conversations" always devolve into the same useless arguments, which are entirely irrelevant to the point that people have good reasons they use Windows because anyone else's opinion of their reasons is irrelevant.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by rossmohax »

PUA == Potentially Unwanted Application. This is a class of application enterprises might not want to see on their computers. I bet there is a hidden registry key or something to allow PUA.

If it was blocked on Home and Pro versions of Windows, then it is indeed odd.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by kozak »

ethbr0 wrote: post #36
sdoering wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. Any idea why?

I'd also be curious what happens if you rename them to {not-keygen}.exe I'd hope it wouldn't make a difference, but my experience with IT security thinking makes me bet the other way.

I renamed it into {not-keygen}.{not-exe} instead. I didn't investigate the issue in details, but I think that Microsoft expects a more enterprisey file name for a legitimate keygen. I should have called it something along the lines of CredentialManager.exe instead :)

But I wonder whether it did auto-submit these files to Microsoft together with my private keys. I'm glad that the private keys were in config files outside of the executables, and this probably saved them from being compromised.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by jmrm »

This is why the first thing I do in my computers is disabling Defender via Registry or Group Policy.

It not only enables itself after rebooting the computer, it also ignore your exclusions every month or so when it has an update and removes files you don't want to.

Yeah, I know this is unsafe, but if you don't go to weird webpages, only install trusted software from trusted sites, doesn't use other people's pen drives, have weekly usable backups, and check every month the PC with other antivirus and antimalware there isn't so much dangers IMO.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by hanselot »

l30n4da5 wrote: post #50
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure their is: Windows is a better fit for the things I do with a computer. Edit: I know right? How dare I express a preference for Windows. Downvote me to hell because I don't like using your favored OS.

for the most part, HN is pretty squarely in the 'windows bad linux good' camp. It is dumb af since according to a lot of the users on here, linux is gods gift to humanity. doesn't matter that pretty much all software is a dumpster fire, and linux is just another, less hot dumpster fire compared to windows.

At least in Linux the dumpster fire's contents isn't hidden behind a corporate framework of people trying to hide the flames.

At least the Linux fire doesn't attempt to take over other trashcans and force you to update your trash without consent.

At least the Linux fire doesn't preinstall its fire in my trashcan artifically driving up the price of trashcans in the market.

At least in the Linux fire, if you apply yourself and learn enough about your trash, you can choose how much trash and fire is in your trashcan.

At least in the Linux fire, the fire tells you that its dangerous, instead of hiding everything behind stripped down excuses of flames from yester-year.

At least in the Linux fire I can plan to barbecue something over a section of fire and know that it will consistently burn the same way, instead of spreading everywhere and the trashcan exploding.

The irony of course being, that the people who argue for any other fire, have to first answer, why does Windows now feature Linux embedded inside itself?

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by naosouumapessoa »

sslayer wrote: post #23
moss2 wrote: post #17

Switching my home computer to Linux has had its problems since I'm an avid gamer, but the more news I read about Windows the less I regret that decision.

I ditched in the middle of Windows 7, with absolutely no regrets. Valve has made tremendous inroads in gaming with Proton, along with developers releasing for Linux, there really isn't a good excuse to stay with Microsoft.

> there really isn’t a good excuse to stay with Microsoft

Except, if you run nvidia optimus laptop and have mixed display DPI.

Every few months I try to run Arch on my recent laptop and it’s always a nightmare.

I was hyped that 470 driver would fix wayland in nvidia (the only half decent way to fix mixed DPIs on Linux). Lo and behold, It’s still a buggy mess that made me crawl back to windows.

Maybe on 570 I will be able to use Linux on this laptop, likely never.

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