So? We helped fucking pay for it, and we're eligible to draw from it as-per the withdrawal agreement.
UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
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Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is that different from what your own government does with the taxes you paid? They also take your money and spend it on infrastructure, projects or social support that you might or might not want to/need to use.
The difference is the weird branding issue. It's as though implying 'The EU did this!' when really it was local taxpayers who did, in fact, they've likely overpaid as services will disproportionately go to poor countries. I think it's fair on some level, but should be commensurate with the activity. Towns should not be forced to fly an EU flab 'because some fund'. If a highway in Poland is built with EU funds, then i…
I cannot see a difference to the other examples?
„If a British town reinvigorates their high street with EU funds, …“
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#13We are going to see more of this. UK is like a teenager who wants to leave home, but comes back every weekend to have it's laundry done by mon
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”. A lot of these projects, e.g. linking up people to shared sewer systems, are things countries should have done on their own decades ago without requiring money from somewhere else . It's a reminder to the population that without the money from the EU this project would likely not have happened at all and that the EU indeed impr…
"countries should have done on their own decades ago without requiring money from somewhere else." You mean like Western European aid and investment from the US for reconstruction after the war? Or the fact that most these countries were still under military occupation and 'should have done it' while the USSR was extracting their wealth? Germans killed millions of Poles in living memory a few roads and bridges are ow…
> You mean like Western European aid and investment from the US for reconstruction after the war?
Yes, exactly:
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The Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP) was an American initiative passed in 1948 for foreign aid to Western Europe. The United States transferred over $13 billion (equivalent of about $114 billion[1] in 2020[2]) in economic recovery programs to Western European economies after the end of World War II. Replacing an earlier proposal for a Morgenthau Plan, it operated for four years beginning on April 3, 1948.[3] The goals of the United States were to rebuild war-torn regions, remove trade barriers, modernize industry, improve European prosperity, and prevent the spread of communism.[4] The Marshall Plan required a reduction of interstate barriers, a dropping of many regulations, and encouraged an increase in productivity, as well as the adoption of modern business procedures.[5]
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Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#15The great thing with the “European money”, is that you send 100 every year, it sends you 50 or 60 back( if you’re one of the top contributors like the UK, France or Germany), tells you how to use it, and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
How is that different from what your own government does with the taxes you paid? They also take your money and spend it on infrastructure, projects or social support that you might or might not want to/need to use.
The difference is that, first, you get 100% back and not 50% (a tiny detail...), and second, you elect UK government and MPs... you don't elect the "Commissioners" in Brussels, you can decide what and where to spend money on.
But if you have no problem with that then contact me by email, for your own good, i'd suggest that your spending go through me first, give me your money and I'll fund you in the "optimal" way, for your own good. ;)
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
The difference is the weird branding issue. It's as though implying 'The EU did this!' when really it was local taxpayers who did, in fact, they've likely overpaid as services will disproportionately go to poor countries. I think it's fair on some level, but should be commensurate with the activity. Towns should not be forced to fly an EU flab 'because some fund'. If a highway in Poland is built with EU funds, then i…
I cannot see a difference to the other examples? „If a British town reinvigorates their high street with EU funds, …“
There's no such thing as EU funds. EU funds are British, French, and Germany's money.
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#17We are going to see more of this. UK is like a teenager who wants to leave home, but comes back every weekend to have it's laundry done by mon
Which side dragged on for months/years, asking that the UK keeps on participating to the EU budget for several years AFTER leaving ? London or Brussels ?
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#18We are going to see more of this. UK is like a teenager who wants to leave home, but comes back every weekend to have it's laundry done by mon
To improve your analogy, UK is like a teenager who was persuaded to leave home by a drug dealer, who promised them that they will be the coolest and most special kid on the block while being used to sell drugs and their body.