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US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

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Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#31

Is there an estimated timeframe for when people will start to experience the impact of the climate crisis instead of only hearing about it?

Heatwaves, forest fires, and dying coral have all been experienced in the past few years by some people.

Attributing any specific extreme weather event to global warning is problematic.

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#32

Is there an estimated timeframe for when people will start to experience the impact of the climate crisis instead of only hearing about it?

Did you forget this happened only a few weeks ago?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Western_North_America_hea...

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#33

still, I see no serious action being taken to tackle the climate crisis. Current governments are just putting some dates by which we’ll stop doing x or y, but in really almost nothing concrete is done to stop the worst scenarios.

Whatever current event you're concerned about, have you looked for historical precedent? Suppose you were to discover that the same kind of event had happened in, say, the early 1900s, and/or the late 1800s, before humans had emitted any appreciable amount of CO2. Would that change your opinion about whether we're in a crisis?

Well, has it?

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#34
post #20

For the first time in my life, I experienced a massive heat wave, torrential rainfall and flooding, a forest fire and hail, all within a single month. I am NOT looking forward to what's coming in a few years.

Buckle up for the rest of your life…

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#35
post #30
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That example says nothing about frequency or rate of change.

Sure, you'd want some actual climate scientist to do a statistical analysis. But just dismissing it with "it has happened before" is too simple too.

It's quite sad that this forum, usually one of the most civil and thoughtful places on the internet, is full of climate change deniers with pathetic arguments that even they must see the issues with.

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#36
The opposition party has dwindling numbers and lives in a wasteland, gee golly whats going to happen?

Yeah I get that their land votes for them, but we can just ride this one out and then have a super pac pay for relocation of a few people to specific counties within states.

Opposition party just doesnt have the numbers to try the same strategy.

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#37

Is there an estimated timeframe for when people will start to experience the impact of the climate crisis instead of only hearing about it?

Heatwaves, forest fires, and dying coral have all been experienced in the past few years by some people.

Regarding heatwaves, they've always happened. For example, there was a heatwave in Paris in 1911 that killed around 40,000 people. It'd be easy to find a hundred examples like that, all from before humans had emitted much CO2.

Regarding forest fires, acres burned are a small fraction of what they used to be in the 1920s. https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/20...

Regarding coral, if they're having trouble because of CO2 ppm going from 300 to 400, imagine how hard they had it back when CO2 ppm was twice what it is today... or three times. Or four times. Or ten times.

Edit: I'd love for someone to provide some justification for this comment to be flagged.

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#38
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever current event you're concerned about, have you looked for historical precedent? Suppose you were to discover that the same kind of event had happened in, say, the early 1900s, and/or the late 1800s, before humans had emitted any appreciable amount of CO2. Would that change your opinion about whether we're in a crisis?

Well, has it?

Are you asking me if heatwaves have happened before?

Edit: Again, I'd love to hear some justification for this comment to be flagged. Are there any rules on this forum, or do we just get censored by anonymous people with special authorities?

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#39

still, I see no serious action being taken to tackle the climate crisis. Current governments are just putting some dates by which we’ll stop doing x or y, but in really almost nothing concrete is done to stop the worst scenarios.

Whatever current event you're concerned about, have you looked for historical precedent? Suppose you were to discover that the same kind of event had happened in, say, the early 1900s, and/or the late 1800s, before humans had emitted any appreciable amount of CO2. Would that change your opinion about whether we're in a crisis?

You're looking at this the wrong way: extreme weather is not a predictable, one-off event. With climate change, we would expect to hit the extremes more often, and statistically the data has been showing us moving in this direction for years. Is it a crisis? Well, it only looks like it's going to get worse from here, and it's already not looking good…

Re: US set for punishing temperatures as ‘heat dome’ to settle over country

#40

still, I see no serious action being taken to tackle the climate crisis. Current governments are just putting some dates by which we’ll stop doing x or y, but in really almost nothing concrete is done to stop the worst scenarios.

Whatever current event you're concerned about, have you looked for historical precedent? Suppose you were to discover that the same kind of event had happened in, say, the early 1900s, and/or the late 1800s, before humans had emitted any appreciable amount of CO2. Would that change your opinion about whether we're in a crisis?

The current event I'm concerned about is the increase in average global temperatures caused by the increased concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. To the best of my knowledge Earth has never warmed as quickly as it's currently warming and CO2 levels haven't been as high since before humans were around.
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