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Re: Haiku Beta 3

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I think at this point I'm on the fourth consecutive laptop that this just won't ever boot on. This time, however, it just says "Haiku" on a splash screen and then stops completely. No errors, no debug message window, nothing.

(At this point usually someone here insists that I file a bug. Which I won't do because a) I have no useful information to put into a bug report and b) I think after eleven years of this nonsense it's probably in there about 200 times already anyway.)

Oh, look. Can't even press the space bar to get an unintelligible error anymore.

Re: Haiku Beta 3

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I think at this point I'm on the fourth consecutive laptop that this just won't ever boot on. This time, however, it just says "Haiku" on a splash screen and then stops completely. No errors, no debug message window, nothing. (At this point usually someone here insists that I file a bug. Which I won't do because a) I have no useful information to put into a bug report and b) I think after eleven years of this nonsens…

I've pretty much given up on these new OSes. I tried to run OS/2 and Plan 9 (whatever that relatively recent open sourced version of it was) and I just feel like... maybe I haven't developed the appropriate context to be able to even know what to do with it. Sure, Kali I know I can use my AWUS036ahw network card on, Ubuntu I know I at least have some sensible defaults, Alpine for containers (goddamnit why don't you have vim by default, so annoying to quickly debug stuff), but overall it's just not useful to know these little pieces of computing history. I suppose there are computing archaeologists that benefit from it, but I just get left with a sense of dread that everything I know and have mastered more or less is going to be left for dead and I just get a sense of exhaustion.

I'd say my initial experience of playing around with distros/burning to CDs, etc were instrumental to my learning about what different terminology meant, but overall right now, it's just such a time sink with no real benefit. Same reason why I don't just stop what I'm doing to learn Zig or Objective-S or whatever. There are so many tools to do the same damn thing and while it may be useful for self-learning or potentially a very specific problem set, it's just not worth the mental investment to accomplish any real goals.

It sucks to think about things in this context but it's a real constraint.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoAzpa1x7jU

Re: Haiku Beta 3

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I think at this point I'm on the fourth consecutive laptop that this just won't ever boot on. This time, however, it just says "Haiku" on a splash screen and then stops completely. No errors, no debug message window, nothing. (At this point usually someone here insists that I file a bug. Which I won't do because a) I have no useful information to put into a bug report and b) I think after eleven years of this nonsens…

Hold shift after BIOS/EFI handoff, and you’ll get lots of boot / diagnostic options. I natively boot on 3 systems without any issues.

Re: Haiku Beta 3

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Free version of BeOS rewritten from scratch using the API levels for compatibility. One step closer to public release.

Its better than BeOS, has nvme support, xhci, efi boot, slab allocator, better Posix support, has Qt, webkit, FreeBSD based networking, layout engine, wifi, packages etc.

Re: Haiku Beta 3

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Free version of BeOS rewritten from scratch using the API levels for compatibility. One step closer to public release.

Not just API compatibility. To maintain ABI compatibility as well, at this point they are working with a fork of a really old gcc version that still implements this particular C++ ABI[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system)#Compa...

Re: Haiku Beta 3

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Free version of BeOS rewritten from scratch using the API levels for compatibility. One step closer to public release.

Not just API compatibility. To maintain ABI compatibility as well, at this point they are working with a fork of a really old gcc version that still implements this particular C++ ABI[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_(operating_system)#Compa...

That's only on the 32 bit version, and even there they also use GCC 8.

Re: Haiku Beta 3

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I think at this point I'm on the fourth consecutive laptop that this just won't ever boot on. This time, however, it just says "Haiku" on a splash screen and then stops completely. No errors, no debug message window, nothing. (At this point usually someone here insists that I file a bug. Which I won't do because a) I have no useful information to put into a bug report and b) I think after eleven years of this nonsens…

Try changing the resolution in boot menu.

My laptop supports 1366x768 but for some reason got blank screen. Lower resolution seems to work fine.

Re: Haiku Beta 3

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I think at this point I'm on the fourth consecutive laptop that this just won't ever boot on. This time, however, it just says "Haiku" on a splash screen and then stops completely. No errors, no debug message window, nothing. (At this point usually someone here insists that I file a bug. Which I won't do because a) I have no useful information to put into a bug report and b) I think after eleven years of this nonsens…

Hold shift after BIOS/EFI handoff, and you’ll get lots of boot / diagnostic options. I natively boot on 3 systems without any issues.

Yes, that's definitely a thing I'm going to keep trying when there's several dozen options and every option set that doesn't work either also leaves you looking forever at a dead splash screen or crashes with a white screen full of "no debug on this file" which you can't reboot out of without a hard ACPI reset.

It's just dogshit, and it's getting worse.

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