Smuggling opportunity! Having legalized weed was a major blow to the unorganized carriage trade, I guess this counts as stimulus for that all important sector of the economy.
PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
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Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#172Good. It's time Silicon Valley cared about TDP the way auto makers have to care about gas mileage. Tighten the screws.
This Dell PC probably has as much to do with Silicon Valley as Tesla has with Detroit.
One wonders where you think these chips were designed?
I used to live between the AMD and NVIDIA campuses.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mostly V-7 it looks like. What's insane is trying to find this information directly on california gov website. all the links are broken.
the link isn't broken, its just chrome blocking the pdf because its not on https but the src site is.
From this article:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/16/505856155...
They cite:
https://ww2.energy.ca.gov/2016publications/CEC-400-2016-010/
Searching the website for anything related to `computer` on the CA website doesn't give me the thing I'm looking for which is that table V-7 on a gov source (not a lawyer's website).
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#174These overzealous "green" regulations crack me up. Don't get me wrong, I'm very pro-green-energy: I think my own country should stop building coal power plants and start investing heavily in solar and wind. However, a lot of these consumer-targetted rules are just ludicrous bureaucratic overreach that cause more issues than they solve. A quick example: My apartment block was just "upgraded" to meet some new energy-ef…
That reminds me of how turning off "EuP mode" in the BIOS of an Atom nettop (it's an Atom, they're going to be using very little power even at full throttle) stopped complaints of stuttering and lag from its owner, several years ago.
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#175Honestly, now that SSDs are near universal why are we bothering with sleep mode anymore anyways? Can't full hibernate be made fast enough for no-power standby?
Hibernation with kernel lockdown on Linux doesn’t work yet. Background post from a few months back: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/55845.html
Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. According to Natural Resources Defense Council via NYT, "about a quarter of all residential energy consumption is used on devices in idle power mode" in Northern California [1]. Huge opportunity for efficiency improvement through regulatory action, given idle power consumption is otherwise an afterthought for both manufacturers and consumers. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/science/just-how-much-pow...
Yep. This is literally why these PCs cannot be shipped. Their idle/sleep consumes too much power.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
Regulations are a political action. For political actions, it's not a "random fact" to mention which party is running politics.
Ice cream consumption does not cause drowning.
Re: PC can't be shipped to CA, CO, HI, OR, VT or WA due to power consumption
#179There are two ways to solve climate change. Lower the population or lower consumption. Efficiency gains such as these are a way to lower consumption and we should be continue to focus on regulations that drive towards lower consumption. Population control is still largely taboo so lowering consumption is the only way out of climate change at this point.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but for me its more about it being illegal than actually being a good laptop.
Buy a 40 Watt Inscandescent light bulb and put it in a lamp next to your current laptop. Turn it on every time you put the laptop to sleep. Same difference.