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Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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If you do anything remotely important via email, you should own you own domain name, and pay for a hosted email solution. I can suggest tuffmail. They are awesome and affordable.

How is this different from using Google Apps for your domain? You're simply giving your email hosting to tuffmail as opposed to google.

When the host burns you, just point your DNS to a new host and the emails stop bouncing in hours.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#102

Startup idea: Sync all Google services with local hard drive

We kinda started something... http://cloudHQ.net/dropbox Basically real-time synchronization between Google Docs and Dropbox (and other services). You can also synchronize Basecamp to Dropbox. Gmail and other Google and 37signals services are coming soon.

Backupify is also an option, but they backup to their own storage which, again, is not owned by you.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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The problem with having your own domain for email is the communication factor. When I tell someone my email is charles.lastname@gmail.com, there's no miscommunication. Worst case I have to spell out my last name, but generally if someone's asking for email they already have my last name. If you buy a domain, nowadays, you have few options with respect to getting an email that sounds legit, mature, and isn't long and/…

firstname@lastname.[com|net|org]. Mine is bertjw@regeer.org for example.

john@smith.com

you want to see how bad it turn when you do chin, li, etc? soon we will run out of website names!

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#104
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once you have it locally you have all the time in the world to retag it.

Yeah, because manually re-entering data that exists already is just what a geek wants to do with the next few months of their life. Not.

i'm just saying that it's not the same order of problem as not having the mail at all. also, the majority of my tags are applied using filter rules, which are relatively easy to duplicate on an offline archive.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#105
I also rely on Google for most online services but I do take a few precautions: I use my own domain for email and route it to GMail and configure outgoing email to look like it is from my domain, I backup GMail, Docs, Blogger blog, and Picasa on a regular basis, and I route my Blogger based blog to blog.MYDOMAINNAME.com.

Sure, it would be awful to lose my Google account but I could recover from it.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#106
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The world would be a better place if if companies focused on "people", and not on "money". Of course that's unrealistic. But I don't care. I grew up believing in Star-Trek-style society. You know... "Social problems are gone; people are free to devote themselves to improving themselves; etc". I honestly believed that humanity would someday achieve this. I used to believe most people were inherently good, and that the…

I sympathize with your idealistic sort of thinking but it is unreasonable. Corporations (which is what Google is) are responsible to shareholders. The purpose of a corporation by definition is to maximize the bottom line for the shareholder. It has nothing to do with being good to people. The only way that this guy's problem will get solved is if enough people catch wind of his situation that it affects the fairly po…

The purpose of a corporation is to further the aims of England, under royal charter, and as a reward is allowed to make a profit.

That's how it was in the 1500s.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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I fail to see how you are addressing the argument made in the previous post. Google is giving you a service for free because they are selling data about you for money. In other words if you aren't paying for the product you are the product. How does that have anything to do with sophistry?

Sophistry : "a subtle, tricky, superficially plausible, but generally fallacious method of reasoning." Google makes money because they have users , in the same way that a television network makes money because they have viewers. Both are entirely reliant upon their user base, and will desperately trying to optimize and maximize that user base. If the GP's point was "there is a very low profit / user, and a limited im…

The majority of googles revenue comes from exactly the fact that they can sell targeted advertising.

Neglecting that is what is unnecessary.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#108
I'm not sure why this problem (the general problem - the risk of valid accounts being arbitrarily blocked) isn't an easy fix for google. Most spammers/fraudsters seek efficiency, so just take that efficiency away. When an account is first suspected, start requiring a CAPTCHA for every email sent. Then, when the time comes to block, let there be an annoying but doable automated procedure for unblocking (perhaps involving emails sent from the addresses of several of your frequent contacts), with a time delay - after your first block, it takes 5 hours to unblock, after your second, 1 day, and so on.

It would reduce what is now a very scary prospect for people who (like me) put too many eggs in G's basket, to a minor inconvenience rarely encountered. And I can't see that it would make life much easier for spammers.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#109

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On all available tlds? Really?

well having me@lastname.ly would require you to explain "that's a .ly not .com" and therefore not solve this particular problem

I have never had any trouble with "jon@jrock.us". People type the characters in your email address verbatim. They do not randomly add stuff.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#110
This is why I have my own server... If everything gets deleted, it's my fault (I should have been backing up). I'm not going to punish myself for not paying attention to my non-existent terms of service.

I recognise that with the 'cloud', comes simplicity... but I'm not sure if I will ever be able to let go of my own data.

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