UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
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UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
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Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#2The great thing with the “European money”, is that you send 100 every year, it sends you 50 or 60 back( if you’re one of the top contributors like the UK, France or Germany), tells you how to use it, and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#3The great thing with the “European money”, is that you send 100 every year, it sends you 50 or 60 back( if you’re one of the top contributors like the UK, France or Germany), tells you how to use it, and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
sounds like a scam to me
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#4The great thing with the “European money”, is that you send 100 every year, it sends you 50 or 60 back( if you’re one of the top contributors like the UK, France or Germany), tells you how to use it, and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
> and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
A lot of these projects, e.g. linking up people to shared sewer systems, are things countries should have done on their own decades ago without requiring money from somewhere else. It's a reminder to the population that without the money from the EU this project would likely not have happened at all and that the EU indeed improves their very own lives!
This is especially important in countries such as Croatia that have a high amount of "EU sceptics" who claim alllll the time "all Brussels does is prescribing us to teach our children LGBT culture and we get nothing!!!" (source: am half Croat, have heard this individual line far too often).
For large infrastructure projects aka the TEN (Trans European Networks), these usually give so much benefit to the economies of the countries involved that yes indeed you are supposed to say "thanks to the EU for organizing and coordinating this over multiple governments".
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#5The great thing with the “European money”, is that you send 100 every year, it sends you 50 or 60 back( if you’re one of the top contributors like the UK, France or Germany), tells you how to use it, and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
How is that different from what your own government does with the taxes you paid? They also take your money and spend it on infrastructure, projects or social support that you might or might not want to/need to use.
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#6Drawing on funds that you paid into and the receipts are essentially the money you put in is not hypocritical.
Forcing people who leave a club to pay 50-100 billion pounds on the way out the door for arbitrary made up claims is perhaps. While a good chunk of money is allocated towards retiring UK officials in the EU, most of it is not. Lawmakers from EU countries are literally on the public record stating 'Making them pay!' and coming up with arbitrary numbers of '10s of bilions' on the spot, out of thin air, not based on any rational reconciliation of funds, which is my view, blatant corruption.
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#7The great thing with the “European money”, is that you send 100 every year, it sends you 50 or 60 back( if you’re one of the top contributors like the UK, France or Germany), tells you how to use it, and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
As opposed to the alternative, which seems to be to have that money funneled into the pockets of Tory donors/pals through astonishingly corrupt contract awards, while the places that formerly received EU investment now get nothing and lapse into neglect and poverty because nobody in Westminster gives two shits about anything outside the M25.
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#8The great thing with the “European money”, is that you send 100 every year, it sends you 50 or 60 back( if you’re one of the top contributors like the UK, France or Germany), tells you how to use it, and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
> and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”. A lot of these projects, e.g. linking up people to shared sewer systems, are things countries should have done on their own decades ago without requiring money from somewhere else . It's a reminder to the population that without the money from the EU this project would likely not have happened at all and that the EU indeed impr…
"countries should have done on their own decades ago without requiring money from somewhere else."
You mean like Western European aid and investment from the US for reconstruction after the war?
Or the fact that most these countries were still under military occupation and 'should have done it' while the USSR was extracting their wealth?
Germans killed millions of Poles in living memory a few roads and bridges are owed.
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#9Drawing on funds that you paid into and the receipts are essentially the money you put in is not hypocritical. Forcing people who leave a club to pay 50-100 billion pounds on the way out the door for arbitrary made up claims is perhaps. While a good chunk of money is allocated towards retiring UK officials in the EU, most of it is not. Lawmakers from EU countries are literally on the public record stating 'Making the…
This seems like a very onesided display as the EU claim is 40.8bn (less than your 50-100bn) and the UK recognizes around 35-39bn of those, so it doesn't seem to be as much fantasy or malicious, just regular negotiation.
Based on: https://www.bbc.com/news/51110096
Re: UK councils to display EU flags after UK dips into Covid recovery cash
#10The great thing with the “European money”, is that you send 100 every year, it sends you 50 or 60 back( if you’re one of the top contributors like the UK, France or Germany), tells you how to use it, and you are supposed to say “thanks” and put up big signs saying “the EU paid for this”.
How is that different from what your own government does with the taxes you paid? They also take your money and spend it on infrastructure, projects or social support that you might or might not want to/need to use.
The difference is the weird branding issue. It's as though implying 'The EU did this!' when really it was local taxpayers who did, in fact, they've likely overpaid as services will disproportionately go to poor countries.
I think it's fair on some level, but should be commensurate with the activity.
Towns should not be forced to fly an EU flab 'because some fund'.
If a highway in Poland is built with EU funds, then it's very fair to have ample signage indicating that.
Or of the vaccines are paid for by the EU, then the vaccine rollout should make that very clear. That's fair.
That way at least there's legitimacy to it.