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PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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post #128

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https://puri.sm/products/librem-5 https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-p...

the librem is a bit too clunky and expensive, probability of pine adding a newer GPU is higher!

Newer GPU = different SoC -> solving many solved problems once again.

Likely candidate SoC for a "PinePhone 2" is the RockChip RK3566, but I would not expect that before 2023 (if not later).

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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Any chance for built-in live image stacking to get rid of the noise in still images?

maybe if someone writes a decent implementation

imagemagick?

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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post #91

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He was just being polite. Standard unwritten rule : start with a single supportive positive line on a thing and then follow it by a whole page of criticism.

The classical “shit sandwich”.

open face shit sandwich

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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Nevertheless you cannot reasonably say that the OS itself is bad. It's the pressure of the monopolies against freedom.

It's not about the blame game. When asking a user that has no care, ideology or stakes in the game how "good" an OS is... if the OS crashes, that OS is likely bad. This is the overall the most important metric.

Linux does not crash anymore. Proprietary apps can though. Is it still on the OS?

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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post #154

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Indeed, and they do so willingness, because the Linux kernel is a detail completely hidden away to them. The OS vendor can change the kernel being used, and those average users won't notice it all. The only quality is being a free beer OS, that the OEM vendors can leech at will without bothering one second up-streaming their changes. And when the community started to be too vocal about it, efforts to use MIT/BSD lice…

The quality is being solid, easy to develop for, and, yes, free. I think you overestimate the ability of appliance companies to develop proprietary OS kernels. MIT/BSD licensed stuff is still free software.

Having fun enjoying the free software from PlayStation 4 OS?

I advise you to read about Zephyr OS, FreeRTOS, Azure RTOS, Fuchsia, NuttX,....

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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post #182

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Except at the end of the day catering for 1% of the desktop is too much to ask for to cripple business operations with, when 99% of everyone else is coming in with Windows and macOS laptops.

Not at all. The peripherals that work with Linux also will (likely) work with Windows or MacOS.

Yeah, and usually more constraint in capabilities.

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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post #217

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Not at all. The peripherals that work with Linux also will (likely) work with Windows or MacOS.

Yeah, and usually more constraint in capabilities.

If by "capability" you mean not supporting some latest standard that provides marginal benefit over established solutions (e.g, Wi-Fi b/n/c/whatever, "cloud printing") or anti-features (Apple's "Pro" touchbar), then yes. But if you mean being able to do anything actually useful, I'd say that maybe only those working with Audio Processing still are under-served by Linux Desktop - and even that will change soon with Pipewire.

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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It has already been admitted that both the PinePhone and the Librem 5 cannot run these apps well enough to justify switching or even recommending them. What use is a smartphone that claims to run apps (Native apps, Android apps or Web Apps) but runs them much worse than the user's previous device (or can't run them at all)? To the users hoping to make the switch, it feels more like a downgrade; especially PWAs. For e…

> yet many users that use Signal cannot even run it on their Librem 5 or PinePhone This is really a fault of Signal, because they forbid forks and do not provide a good app for GNU/Linux phones. It's like a walled garden. I do not use Signal for this reason.

So that means I can only wait for Signal to at least work and run fast enough and reliably on Anbox before recommending it to Android users who use Signal to make the switch to either of these phones.

Until then, these users are going to have to be waiting for years of improvements first before jumping onboard a product that they will see as 'unfinished' or 'sluggish' than their previous phone.

Re: PinePhone – Open Source Smart Phone Supported by Major Linux Phone Projects

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Yeah, and usually more constraint in capabilities.

If by "capability" you mean not supporting some latest standard that provides marginal benefit over established solutions (e.g, Wi-Fi b/n/c/whatever, "cloud printing") or anti-features (Apple's "Pro" touchbar), then yes. But if you mean being able to do anything actually useful , I'd say that maybe only those working with Audio Processing still are under-served by Linux Desktop - and even that will change soon with P…

Yeah, yet another reboot on the GNU/Linux desktop stack, I lost count of them.
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