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You will not be a fan of recipe blogs anywhere on the internet.
Boy oh boy do I have the recipe for you! http://slimsag.com/best-apache-chef-recipe/1438731.htm
This made my day.
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I'm still waiting for a robot that can assemble a LEGO model from a pile of Legos.
https://www.wired.com/2010/10/legobot/
Thanks for the link. It seems to me that this is rather specialized, and would run into trouble with designs that have a very small base. Also, the number of parts is limited. Imho, this is closer to a printer than to a general model assembly robot.
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https://www.wired.com/2010/10/legobot/
Thanks for the link. It seems to me that this is rather specialized, and would run into trouble with designs that have a very small base. Also, the number of parts is limited. Imho, this is closer to a printer than to a general model assembly robot.
Yeah a generic one would be much more complicated but it’s itself built from lego.
There are more complex ones but I can’t find the links.
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It’s not pedantry. Those companies have effectively nothing in common when it comes to HW.
It's pedantry. FAAG is not an acronym in common usage (and is uncomfortably close to being a slur), so the more easily understood, less correct word was used instead. To point out that one of the companies doesn't produce consumer hardware doesn't invalidate the underlying point, so what is it, if not pedantry?
I’m pointing out that it’s stupid to use an acronym that includes mega companies that don’t have access to cutting edge Shenzhen manufacturing and excludes ones that have far more access.
Facebook doesn’t have better Shenzhen access than Microsoft or you know, hardware focused companies like nvidia.
Using “FAANG” is a red flag that the commenter has no idea wtf they are talking about when it comes to the hardware industry.
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#275I’m “unlocking” that this will be dead within 18 months. It will get too hard and bored engineers will head back to Google Corp where the promotion game is better. I’m in manufacturing. Machinery is highly specialised. Making a generic robot without taking up huge amount of floor space and/or huge leaps in programming is like… Kubernetes being good for hosting your moms book club blog.
What do you think of Covariant.ai? They seem to be doing fairly well in automating a lot of common assembly line tasks (picking, placing and sorting).
Pick and place was one of the very first of the modern roboticization era in the 80s. That’s more going after an existing market than this.
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I'll remind myself in 2 years to see the state of this
Given that this is Google, my money is on them either abandoning it, or making a new version every 2-3 years (for no discernable reason) making no actual progress as a result. I would LOVE to be proven wrong, but Google's track record with bringing products to market, and actually keeping them for longer than a media boost, is downright depressing. At some point it feels like every Google side project is just a media…
It’s not depressing, it’s wonderful. Google’s abject failure in almost every area is great. They have nearly unlimited resources and a fantastic (though but as great as they think) engineering pool. It would suck if they managed to successfully attack adjacencies.
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Recipe for french toast: Step 1: Learn the history of France Step 2: learn the history of toast Step 3: heat bread, eggs, milk in a pan
Keep going. The ingredient list is on page 12. One time I inadvertently hit print on a recipe like this and the print dialog estimated 45 pages.
Few people pay attention to their print stylesheets anymore but some recipe sites do and it’s great.
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given that this is Google, my money is on them either abandoning it, or making a new version every 2-3 years (for no discernable reason) making no actual progress as a result. I would LOVE to be proven wrong, but Google's track record with bringing products to market, and actually keeping them for longer than a media boost, is downright depressing. At some point it feels like every Google side project is just a media…
It’s not depressing, it’s wonderful. Google’s abject failure in almost every area is great. They have nearly unlimited resources and a fantastic (though but as great as they think) engineering pool. It would suck if they managed to successfully attack adjacencies.
I have a hard time calling immense wastes of resources "wonderful". Think of how many man-hours of at least better-than-average engineers have been wasted developing something like 5 separate chat apps... it's absurd.
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#279Nice. Here's much the same job, being done almost 50 years ago, by a robot at the Stanford AI lab.[1] This robot has both vision and force feedback, and uses them to assemble an automotive water pump. It does the coarse alignment visually, and the fine alignment by feel. [1] https://archive.org/details/sailfilm_pump
It's hard for me to compare precisely, especially since the Intrinsic videos are sped up, but the one you linked looks very shaky and hesitant, and also the "Ikea challenge" seems like it requires more fine-tuned force-feedback than putting metal pieces together. If I anthropomorphize, the Stanford robot looks like an inept/hungover employee, whereas the Intrinsic robot seems convincing that it's actually accurately…
It's hard for me to compare precisely, especially since the Intrinsic videos are sped up
Here's a longer version in a larger size, either not sped up or not sped up so much.[1] It's using a simple strategy of approaching the socket at an slightly off angle and then twisting into alignment.
That's a standard strategy. Compare this video of assembling Lego blocks with an industrial robot. Note the little twist moves.[2]
Did the machine learning come up with that, or was it preprogrammed? Did ML re-invent remote center compliance? That would be progress.
Rod Brooks went down this road with Rethink Robotics. They went bust.
You can certainly do what they're showing. It's making a profit on it that's hard.
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I can understand why the style may seem offputting, but the thing to understand is that it has been traditionally very hard to engage with the public on this topic of robotic advancement. In fact, I know a bit about this myself, having been in the robotics space for over a decade. But my own struggles in the field only reflect a longer trend, which I can even trace back to my grandfather. Growing up in a strict Luthe…
Thanks so much for this. Sadly Bundleron's are online only now.
LOL. Yes, it's just not the same.