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“I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Steve Jobs would have never let the TouchBar come to market, if not outright fire the inventor of it. I’m on my second MacBook Air because of how bad is touchbar.

Steve Jobs championed the abomination that was the hockey puck mouse, and did not think that mice, in general, needed more than one button.

Single click is still the default on every mac. You have to turn on right click clicking. Most don’t.

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> Is that really all there is to it? The consistency of aesthetic is enough to win? I've always found it to be an interesting question, why they continue to be so successful. Apple understands that technology is not enough. If you want consumers to want to use your products, you have to get the technology right, and you have to make the product a joy to use. Most of us in this industry get the technology right, but t…

> Most of us in this industry get the technology right, but treat the consumer joy (aka, amazing UX) as completely optional. Unfortunately our industry is so metric-based, that we’re unwilling to make investments in intangibles like UX.

That's funny, because AT&T with the rotary phone and original Windows UI, both of which have stood the test of time, were results of extensive and rigorous UX research. Hard numbers got the industry mainstream. Then we decided it was time to make things pretty, even at the cost of UX, and here we are.

Or put in other words, metric-based was awesome, but then we decided to focus on wrong metrics.

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Also the Alt key + letter keys produces a series of key codes prefixed by escape, so one can use any single letter normal-mode command with the Alt key, resulting in "Escape"+ . This is convenient to quickly switch to e.g. moving the cursor with e.g. `Alt+j` to both escape from insert mode back to normal mode _and_ move down a line.

I knew about the Ctrl+[ but this might be a game changer... I have tried vim several times but have never gotten used to the idea of staying in one mode or another (emacs chords is more intuitive to me). This seems promising.

Another popular thing people like to do is map something like or to Escape. This can be easily done in your vimrc.

While the mapping is great and enabled by default, it does have the side effect of logging an extra key press based on the [a-z].

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Just to take a recent HN front page example, the link to SyncThing. It says " Since Android phones, at least, are Linux-based, one need only set up a normal shell environment on it and put Syncthing there to achieve this goal; the process shouldn't take more than a day or so. " The disconnect between the two worlds "people who use Apple products" and "people who think a day or so of your life is a reasonable amount o…

The FOSS movement has failed to appeal to end users, and a big part of that is the chronic inability of FOSS leaders to understand UX. Us programmers want to believe that technology is enough. That just because because our implantation is technically superior in x, y and z metrics, consumers should be flocking to our solutions. But that’s not good enough. We have to get the technology right, and we have to make the p…

My dad used an old laptop with Xubuntu on it for a while. Worked great for web browsing. I think a notebook computer with some flavor of Ubuntu preinstalled could stand in all right for a Chromebook; the challenge is how to penetrate a market that is pretty well-served already.

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Share the same opinion - in fact, I downgraded back to macOS Mojave. In some ways, I guess the picture is clearer now on why macOS seems to have gone downhill. With their own ARM processors, Apple had to re-shift its focus away from Intel and make its OS work well on its own processor. And of course, with their own ARM processors they can further dumb down macOS and lock it down like ios as that's more profitable for…

> And of course, with their own ARM processors they can further dumb down macOS and lock it down Anything to back this up? There was nothing preventing them from ‘locking down’ an intel based macOS, and I haven’t seen any evidence of a money grab with M1 based macOS either…

> There was nothing preventing them from ‘locking down’ an intel based macOS

On Intel Macs, you can install Linux and Windows if you are unhappy with macOS. So they couldn't really lock it down. With their own custom ARM processors, they can prevent the installation of other OSes. Thus, like with iPhone or iPad, you will be stuck with the OS they provide. With the M1, so far you can only run other OSes on VM.

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And what if your friend doesn't have it on their non-Apple device? You waste time because you have to use third-party solutions for something that is built-in the device but restricted due to the software (ios limiting Bluetooth or Wifi Transfer to not work non-Apple devices).

It's just not a problem I find myself running into. Probably part of that is because I don't need to share actual files with others very often these days, especially from my phone, aside from pictures which you can of course send over any messaging or media platform (including SMS). And for small non-image files there's always email. I would add that when I had an Android phone I used the exact same strategies for tr…

> It honestly sounds like you're getting upset about this relative to how you think it should work, and not relative to an actual practical barrier

Typical irritating Apple fan response - "It's not the device, it's your fault for not using the device as Apple intended.

Everyone knows that Apple locks down its devices to only work well within its eco system. But many don't like the fact that it doesn't work as well as with other devices, and this is where Android (and other mobile OS) shine over ios. With less than 50% marketshare, Apple device users do often run into this problem with others who have a non-Apple device.

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Around the time this was written I knew a number of people who had bought a Mac because it was a nice BSD-like command line environment with a reasonable GUI. These same people also spent a lot of their times in ssh sessions to various Linux and FreeBSD servers. MacOS 10.0 and 10.1 were buggy messes, but the successors were pretty good. Shortly afterwards, MacOS 10.4 and 10.5 improved on it a great deal.

10.4 (Tiger) was fantastic because it was the first version where the UI and the underlying file system drivers and bash were in-sync - in 10.3 you could delete a file in Terminal but the change wouldn't show up in Finder. MacOS just kept getting better and better until sometime around Yosemite or El Capitan, with a small hiccup with Lion.

I think they put a lot of extra work into 10.4 because it was also the first version that ran on Intel hardware. Lots of QC related to the platform transition from PowerPC. If all those $2500 MacBook pros had launched with a flaky OS it would have been a disaster.

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Anecdote: A senior person at Microsoft that I knew after he left relayed his experience trying to use a Mac at HQ. Balmer threw it across the room during a meeting.

My first thought is that this sounds like a terrible work environment. My second thought is, "Wait senior person at microsoft? That means he could probably afford multiple macs." What I'm imagining is that after Balmer throws my mac across the room I pull out my second mac. I would also be scouting for someone who can install an airbag into my mac. Like, can you imagine the look on Balmer's face when he throws your m…

Ultimately Balmer was fired and the attitude of the company changed a lot, so that's something.

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Getting a functional semi-ok, posix sorta vaguely compliant terminal is not a fun or easy task in windows. The web runs linux, and unfortunately, windows doesn't really want to do linux (WSL is a tiny concession)

WSL doesn't cut it, it's at best frustrating with all sort of weird problems. Just yesterday, as I was forced to use Windows at work, I couldn't get emacs to save a file because of some weird locking issue when trying to compile some react application that would work fine on linux

I don’t get it though. WSL2 has been perfect for me this far. I can’t think of something I need Linux for anymore.

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Post-email: https://twitter.com/TechEmails/status/1418259351140188166?s=...

Where he HILARIOUSLY insists Vista was better than anything else on the market. It's like that Iraqi general saying US troops were nowhere near the capital.

Vista was the best thing on the market. You know why? Gaming. Everything came down to what system could handle intense gaming, and guess what, it definitely wasn't Mac or linux.
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