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Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by Beldin »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #18
Beldin wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to take away from Sci-Hub, but even without institutional access, there are often alternatives: - more and more research institutes have a public repository of articles. - plenty of authors put their own (preprints of) papers on their personal website, a preprint server like arxiv, or researchgate. - lastly, you can mail an author and request a preprint. Not all will reply, but plenty will be happy that someone n…

Those take effort and time (hours or days) to make them work. Sci-Hub type solutions are the only way to make this work at scale.

Oh definitely it takes more effort than Sci-Hub. Should've mentioned that in the post.

For a single paper, googling for the pdf, failing that, searching for author page / institutional repo doesn't take much effort. A few minutes, I'd guess.

That still becomes prohibitive for >10 papers sought. Then you need institutional access, something like Sci-Hub, or a lot of patience.

Mailing works as a last resort option.

Honestly, part of the reason i jump through such hoops is to justify not including a paper. I have institutional access and all these options. If none of that suffices, I feel justified in considering the alleged article as not part of the scientific record.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by ekianjo »

Beldin wrote: post #9
submeta wrote: post #7

I am no scientist, and I have no access to paywalled platforms and publications. So Sci-Hub is my only available option, and it is increadibly valuable when it comes to doing research on a specific topic. - I can remember the old days of the internet, pre-wikipedia, when encyclopedias were a paid thing. And I did not have the means to subscribe to them. And I remember the days of the internet pre sci-hub, where a lay…

Not to take away from Sci-Hub, but even without institutional access, there are often alternatives: - more and more research institutes have a public repository of articles. - plenty of authors put their own (preprints of) papers on their personal website, a preprint server like arxiv, or researchgate. - lastly, you can mail an author and request a preprint. Not all will reply, but plenty will be happy that someone n…

All of your solutions require extra manual work, and are therefore inferior.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by the_biot »

honiti wrote: post #12
aminozuur wrote: post #2

Why?

Twitter operates in a world where money is power and power is power and in the scheme of things Twitter doesn’t have much of either. The corporate governmental complex has made its threats clear.

You misspelled "I don't know".

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by the_biot »

andyxor wrote: post #5

join sci-hub rescue mission https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/nc27fv/rescue_... there is a new p2p client being developed (in Go) that makes sci-hub papers accessible via DOI https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/ompcvk/need_help_fr... it could use some help with indexing & IPFS integration (or just code review), see e.g. https://github.com/Trim21/sci-hub-p2p/pull/23

I don't mean to sound cynical about such projects with good intentions, but I'm not convinced this effort will last without the cooperation and approval from the sci-hub admin herself.

Having said that, any alternative way to access sci-hub would have to use a p2p architecture just like this.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by de6u99er »

andyxor wrote: post #5

join sci-hub rescue mission https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/nc27fv/rescue_... there is a new p2p client being developed (in Go) that makes sci-hub papers accessible via DOI https://www.reddit.com/r/libgen/comments/ompcvk/need_help_fr... it could use some help with indexing & IPFS integration (or just code review), see e.g. https://github.com/Trim21/sci-hub-p2p/pull/23

SciHub would be a perfect example for a decentralized searchable repository.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by anfogoat »

ekianjo wrote: post #22
Beldin wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to take away from Sci-Hub, but even without institutional access, there are often alternatives: - more and more research institutes have a public repository of articles. - plenty of authors put their own (preprints of) papers on their personal website, a preprint server like arxiv, or researchgate. - lastly, you can mail an author and request a preprint. Not all will reply, but plenty will be happy that someone n…

All of your solutions require extra manual work, and are therefore inferior.

And most importantly, only work some % of the time.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by belval »

machinehermiter wrote: post #20

As someone who hasn't used social media in 5+ years, what do these social networks need to do to make you quit using them? There has to be some threshold but I just don't understand how this threshold hasn't been crossed for more people. I don't want to see Twitter legislated or controlled. The counter balance and equilibrium should be doing crazy things causes a massive loss of users so crazy things do not happen. T…

Other humans acknowledging your existence and even agreeing with your various opinions is a very very euphoric experience, it is true of any social media. Suddenly you have hundreds or even thousands of people that "get" you, that understand how great and clever you are. This is the drug that people can't quit.

People won't quit because they'd be unable to tell people that they've quit.

Another take could be that we are just all very lonely and that when you stop using social media you are left with emptiness that is harder to fill with real connections with friends especially during covid.

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by mrAnon218 »

machinehermiter wrote: post #20

As someone who hasn't used social media in 5+ years, what do these social networks need to do to make you quit using them? There has to be some threshold but I just don't understand how this threshold hasn't been crossed for more people. I don't want to see Twitter legislated or controlled. The counter balance and equilibrium should be doing crazy things causes a massive loss of users so crazy things do not happen. T…

Deplatforming is the way, social media sucks!

Re: Sci-Hub Twitter account suspended

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Post by Anunayj »

_1tan wrote: post #25

Is the source code of the Sci-hub proxy open source (i.e. their secret sauce)?

SciHub relies on credentials donated (or sold) by people with access to journals to obtain the papers. (If you are in a university, your university likely provides access to many journals and pays for it on your behalf). So yeah, even if they did open source the code, you'll still need to obtain the credentials somehow. Which isn't very pratical.
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