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A 3°C world has no safe place
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#72I'm sitting in my air conditioned room, in the USA. Doing computer stuff, naturally. I look at what I can do about this. I can turn up the temp in my room, and the house. Meager difference. I can use less water - I already am, with getting showers every other day on average. I can eat less meat - which I do with purchase of the beef CSA. I'm big into the repair movement, and repair household equipment and electronics…
Civil disobedience? But even then it’s crazy that people have to glue themselves to objects in the middle of highways to be heard and even then nothing really changes.
We had the technology to solve these problems years ago. This isn’t a technological problem, this is a problem about values. Do we value money or our environment more?
The climate catastrophe unfolding will be the biggest wake up humanity has ever had. That is the only silver lining to this existential predicament
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#73We're about to go into a mini ice age and there is no stopping it.
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#74I'm sitting in my air conditioned room, in the USA. Doing computer stuff, naturally. I look at what I can do about this. I can turn up the temp in my room, and the house. Meager difference. I can use less water - I already am, with getting showers every other day on average. I can eat less meat - which I do with purchase of the beef CSA. I'm big into the repair movement, and repair household equipment and electronics…
> I look at what I can do about this. I can turn up the temp in my room, and the house.
> So what do I do? know what we're doing is what we can
Everything you do is inconsequential in the face of living in a detached single family home on a quarter acre lot.
That very simple fact has exponential knock on effects requiring so much more mass to move so much further and hence consuming so much more energy, that everything else you do is meaningless.
The only solution was reducing total consumption, either per capita or capitas itself, but the former is not going to happen if people live in insufficiently dense manners that preclude public transport or walking and bicycling, and necessitate large roads, parking lots, and personal vehicles.
And of course, once you own or benefit from detached single family house lifestyles, you are not going to vote for anything that inconveniences you or causes you to reduce consumption, such as increased taxes on fossil fuels.
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#75Canada and northern part of the US will be fine (north of the mason dixon line). Places like Albany, NY, or Minesota, or most of Canada, appart from the occasional crazy swings, are going to be more lovely places to live, with slightly milder winters. The southern part is toast, both from water level rises, and lack of fresh water. In this country, the ones that are going to be the most affected by global warming, se…
I don't think the climate change will be solved by laypeople having shorter showers, sitting in tiny condos without air conditioning and buying groceries with the big word "SUSTAINABLE" all over the packaging.
Much more realistically, just like COVID-19 made mRNA commercially viable, actual decrease in quality of life from the climate change will pave the road to engineered carbon-capturing plants, or some smart sun-reflecting particles, or something else.
So if you want to help solve climate change, go study biotechnology and get serious about it. Making your own life arbitrarily uncomfortable and finding a meaning of life in pressuring peers to follow suit won't move the needle in a statistically significant way.
Re: A 3°C world has no safe place
#76I'm sitting in my air conditioned room, in the USA. Doing computer stuff, naturally. I look at what I can do about this. I can turn up the temp in my room, and the house. Meager difference. I can use less water - I already am, with getting showers every other day on average. I can eat less meat - which I do with purchase of the beef CSA. I'm big into the repair movement, and repair household equipment and electronics…
You can also:
* Switch to using 100% renewable energy from your electric company.
* Live in an apartment where shared walls, floors and ceilings means lower energy usage
* Move to a city where you can walk, bicycle or transit (or at least have a short drive to most things).
But the most important is to become involved in climate politics, especially state and local politics. Even in California (the largest state in the union) all you need is a dozen or so people to get a meeting with a state representative.
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#77What are they talking about? In the US this will mean more rain in many regions and longer growing seasons. A lot of plants will quickly adapt. Historically, our planet for most of its history was warmer. It’s all going to be fine, while we will need to adjust the world will continue on. Note: I’m not saying it won’t be hard, but this will be a gradual change and will actually assist some places, while others get mor…
The geopolitical reality of, say, a billion people in India becoming climate refugees is likely to have worldwide implications.
India is a big and diverse place. I don't see any realistic scenario where 1 billion Indians become climate refugees.
Re: A 3°C world has no safe place
#78What are they talking about? In the US this will mean more rain in many regions and longer growing seasons. A lot of plants will quickly adapt. Historically, our planet for most of its history was warmer. It’s all going to be fine, while we will need to adjust the world will continue on. Note: I’m not saying it won’t be hard, but this will be a gradual change and will actually assist some places, while others get mor…
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Re: A 3°C world has no safe place
#79What are they talking about? In the US this will mean more rain in many regions and longer growing seasons. A lot of plants will quickly adapt. Historically, our planet for most of its history was warmer. It’s all going to be fine, while we will need to adjust the world will continue on. Note: I’m not saying it won’t be hard, but this will be a gradual change and will actually assist some places, while others get mor…
Gradual? On earth timescales? There have been tons of articles showing that's not happening, read one today about the great heat wave 'die off' from the last weeks. plants/animals can't adapt on near the timescale of decades from what I've read.
But maybe we can assist finding survivors, I remember reading an article a while ago about assisted coral evolution found a bunch of google scholar on it.
https://scholar.google.fr/scholar?q=climate+change+coral+evo...
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#80Fascinating.