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The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by novok »

Pretty exciting!

A few questions:

Why are the higher end cpu options so much more when the price difference is only about $100 according to intel and they all have the same core count? Do you plan to offer 6 core or more versions? AMD zen 3 or 4? Im guessing you will release a version with 12th cpus in the future?

Will you have a version with two m.2 storage slots and maybe a bigger battery? A version with lpddr5 in the board?

Are the usbc slots also thunderbolt 3 or 4 slots like a macbook pro? How is egpu support?

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by littlestymaar »

wayoutthere wrote: post #698
littlestymaar wrote: post #693

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what kind of cell phone you have, but it's not an usual one: here is a picture of an open modern thinkpad https://gearopen.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/internals-15...

That’s a laptop from 2 years ago; the new M1 MacBooks are more indicative of where things are headed in the future. Things like memory and any custom ICs are just going to be integrated on the same silicon as the CPU in most cases.

Here you go: https://eshop.macsales.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/M...

Still bigger than a smartphone (it occupies the entire width of the laptop (when counting the heatsink, 2/3 of the width otherwise), and around one quarter of the whole area).

Also, your original sentence was

> Modern laptop motherboards can easily be about the size of a cell phone.

Here we see that the one and only best laptop in this regard comes close to the cell-phone-sized motherboard. That's far from what “modern laptop can easily be” means. Most laptops sold today have a much bigger motherboard than this.

(BTW, as much as I'd like to see non x86 laptops going mainstream, software compatibility is huge issue for an ecosystem as diverse as the Windows one (and Roseta 2 being too much of a coinflip isn't encouraging…), we might get there at some point, put it's gonna be slow and painful.)

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by wnolens »

riedel wrote: post #697
victor9000 wrote: post #254

This device is seriously the answer to all my laptop problems. I really like the form factor of the XPS 13, but now I'm stuck with the complete inability to upgrade RAM. In what universe is that normal? Then I accidentally nuked the USB-C ports on the left side when it got wet, and now I'm left with a single port for everything, including charging. What!? Why? I tore the entire thing apart and there's just no way to…

Give me a keyboard with a trackpoint and I will give up thinkpads for the exact same reason.

Not integrated into laptop, but since 99% of my laptop time is spent docked, i'm using https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by md2020 »

kyledrake wrote: post #706

There really needs to be an option to include Linux or even just no OS. It's really frustrating to have to pay the Microsoft tax for something that's supposed to give me a choice and modularity.

There is in the DIY option, but I agree it’d be nice to have the Linux/no OS option in the pre-built as well.

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Post by g_delgado14 »

kyledrake wrote: post #706

There really needs to be an option to include Linux or even just no OS. It's really frustrating to have to pay the Microsoft tax for something that's supposed to give me a choice and modularity.

You can choose "bring your own / no OS" option when you build your own.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Post by sgerenser »

davweb wrote: post #625
sgerenser wrote: post #574

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t appear to be the case on the 16” MBP: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+16-Inch+2019+Tea...

Looking at this photo from that page it appears that they are: https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/uavG2A3vFrVmwv6J.hug... You can see the ports still in place after the motherboard has been removed.

Interesting, didn’t notice that. It looked like the logic board went all the way to the edges.
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