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“I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Naive question, today can you work at microsoft as use a mac for development on the job? (non windows specific development of course) I think about how if you work at apple, you're probably strongly pushed to not use an android phone (I'm sure some exist). Compared to google, you could probably use either android or ios (even with google "owning" android), or mac, windows, or their own flavor of ubuntu for developmen…

IME device/os choice is usually more around IT security than weird cultish things. I.e. my current job, we only use iOS/mac because then IT only has to worry about keeping a fleet of iOS/macs patched and secured. Instead of Windows and a million different linux distros. I also personally think they picked osx because devs using windows probably won't care (since windows is already not great for dev), mac people are h…

windows is already not great for dev? I'll bite, what were you doing, ios apps? lol

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Back around Vista time I went to watch a talk by one of MS's UI designers about all the time and effort they'd put into designing the Vista interface. He gave a demo showing a walk-through of some set-up "wizard" and talked about all the details he thought were important. At no point did he mention the fact that depending on which screen you were on the "next" and "previous" buttons would swap places with the "cancel…

Sometimes my work-issued Macbook decides that it no longer wants to display an escape key on the touch bar (and there is no physical escape key). People joke about not knowing how to exit vi, but it turns out the game is even harder when your machine takes away your escape key!

Map caps lock to ESC using Karabiner

https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org/

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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post #42

Back around Vista time I went to watch a talk by one of MS's UI designers about all the time and effort they'd put into designing the Vista interface. He gave a demo showing a walk-through of some set-up "wizard" and talked about all the details he thought were important. At no point did he mention the fact that depending on which screen you were on the "next" and "previous" buttons would swap places with the "cancel…

The centered taskbar in Windows 11 is a perfect example of this kind of stuff, instead of muscle memory to click something you have to hunt for it because everything moves around.

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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> In fact, you actually struggle and waste more time on ios This hasn't been my experience > Stock Android is just as mature and capable as ios It's fine, but everything is just (imo) a little bit less cohesive and polished, and then there's the Google spyware, a shorter lifetime of updates, etc. And then if you aren't going off the beaten path and customizing stuff anyway, what are you actually gaining in exchange f…

I've given a clear example - try transfering a file from an iPhone or iPad to any non-Apple device, and you will waste a lot of time. Where as an Android or a Tizen or a Sailfish or Windows user only has to switch on Bluetooth and pair to transfer files with each other easily.

I use either Slack or Dropbox, both of which work fine

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Alternative to escape in vi and vi-alikes: control-[ I recommend committing this to muscle memory. It takes two fingers, but is more comfortable than reaching for escape on most keyboards. I prefer mapping caps lock to control rather than to escape, but that's another good alternative. But in any case it's nice to have another option for quitting vim in case something terrible has happened to your escape key, as it s…

Map Caps Lock to both! Tap is Esc, hold is Ctrl.

Did you change your username? I didn't realize that was an option.

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Map Caps Lock to both! Tap is Esc, hold is Ctrl.

Did you change your username? I didn't realize that was an option.

Yes I did, and it probably wasn't really an option, but the moderators were kind enough to reclaim a very old, unused username (which I think was mine but forgot all the credentials to).

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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Alternative to escape in vi and vi-alikes: control-[ I recommend committing this to muscle memory. It takes two fingers, but is more comfortable than reaching for escape on most keyboards. I prefer mapping caps lock to control rather than to escape, but that's another good alternative. But in any case it's nice to have another option for quitting vim in case something terrible has happened to your escape key, as it s…

ctrl+c also works if you are using vim (and not vi). one handed!

That is one-handed in precisely the same way that ctrl-[ is one-handed.

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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I've given a clear example - try transfering a file from an iPhone or iPad to any non-Apple device, and you will waste a lot of time. Where as an Android or a Tizen or a Sailfish or Windows user only has to switch on Bluetooth and pair to transfer files with each other easily.

I use either Slack or Dropbox, both of which work fine

And what if your friend doesn't have it on their non-Apple device? You waste time because you have to use third-party solutions for something that is built-in the device but restricted due to the software (ios limiting Bluetooth or Wifi Transfer to not work non-Apple devices).

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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I use either Slack or Dropbox, both of which work fine

And what if your friend doesn't have it on their non-Apple device? You waste time because you have to use third-party solutions for something that is built-in the device but restricted due to the software (ios limiting Bluetooth or Wifi Transfer to not work non-Apple devices).

It's just not a problem I find myself running into. Probably part of that is because I don't need to share actual files with others very often these days, especially from my phone, aside from pictures which you can of course send over any messaging or media platform (including SMS). And for small non-image files there's always email.

I would add that when I had an Android phone I used the exact same strategies for transferring files.

It honestly sounds like you're getting upset about this relative to how you think it should work, and not relative to an actual practical barrier, so I'm going to withdraw from the conversation here

Re: “I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft” (2004)

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I think it's pretty telling that there are lots of letters like this from Microsoft, but almost none from Apple. I can't imagine someone from Apple writing a letter like this to Jobs and still working at Apple.

Apple did not have it's internal emails made public and discussed in court. I think the email we're discussing was part of the anti-trust investigation against Microsoft.

Yes, the following tweet states:

> This document is from Comes v. Microsoft (2007).]

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