Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’ • Hacker News Board

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:43 PM UTC

jacobr1 wrote: post #260

ChuckMcM wrote: post #230

I'm thinking that chances of Facebook turning into a 'metaverse' are less than the chances that Facebook will turn into the next MySpace. But perhaps I'm overly cynical. It was pretty clear to me that had Blizzard a bit more vision they might have been able to pull this trick off with World of Warcraft but at this point I think that too is off the table. One of the more interesting things I've learned over the course…

Both scenarios can be true. FB could be at the forefront of AR/VR with Oculus and maybe related things like Identity. And on the social network side, they could be a in a slow decline. My bet is something more akin to AOL/Yahoo rather myspace, where the remain relevant in certain niches (older people more focused on the legacy experience, mom & pop stores that currently use facebook pages as their webfront, etc ...).…

I doubt it will end like this for two reason: it’s a money printing machine AND there’s a strong engineering culture. I think fb has more chance to turn like wechat, especially with their move towards payment.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:46 PM UTC

jensensbutton wrote: post #182

cameronh90 wrote: post #61

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Instagram has already peaked and is on the down-trend. TikTok is what the kids are using now - and they're valued at about half of what FB is valued at, so unlikely that FB will be able to buy them. Maybe FB will buy whatever replaces TikTok.

I think Instagram has more staying power than TikTok as TikTok users start aging and the next generation moves onto their own platform. There's a good chance I'm wrong, but my guess is that publishing videos of yourself as a primary communication format gets less appealing with age as social circles shrink.

^ this. I would think of snapchat as a competitor to instagram, but not tiktok. You don’t go on tiktok to talk to your friends or see what’s up. Tiktok is the new 9gag rather.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by tablespoon » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:46 PM UTC

Adrig wrote: post #262

grishka wrote: post #248

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You can't wait for there to be even more ads in this world? You want them to physically follow you around? You can't wait for corporations to see your every move? No thanks. We need to fix our current internet before allowing it to permeate our lives any deeper.

Meh, I'll use the Mozilla VR OS with uBlock 2040 on it

> Meh, I'll use the Mozilla VR OS with uBlock 2040 on it

Adblockers may not work so well in the future, when everything's a binary blob of Web Assembly.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:47 PM UTC

cameronh90 wrote: post #279

jensensbutton wrote: post #182

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I think Instagram has more staying power than TikTok as TikTok users start aging and the next generation moves onto their own platform. There's a good chance I'm wrong, but my guess is that publishing videos of yourself as a primary communication format gets less appealing with age as social circles shrink.

Personally as a 31 year old male, I could never get into Instagram. Always just felt like a shopping catalogue posing as social media, and the discovery is terrible, no matter how much data I try to feed it. I love TikTok though, and not only do I feel like it "got me" after only a few hours of use without hearting anything or having any friends that use it. I've learnt about a lot of local events, restaurants and da…

> having any friends that use it

That’s the point, tiktok is 9gag, instagram is snapchat/facebook/twitter

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:48 PM UTC

nebula8804 wrote: post #237

cameronh90 wrote: post #61

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Instagram has already peaked and is on the down-trend. TikTok is what the kids are using now - and they're valued at about half of what FB is valued at, so unlikely that FB will be able to buy them. Maybe FB will buy whatever replaces TikTok.

I still wish Oracle took over TikTok. It would have been an amazing plot twist. Would they come up an Oracle style licensing agreement for all the tweens on TikTok? Just like how Gen Z realized much faster than millennials that the economy and their future is hogwash, they would learn the consequences of agreeing to an Oracle license agreement much faster than their older peers.

“Tiktok is a national security threat” hahaha. I miss trump.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:50 PM UTC

egypturnash wrote: post #164

yeah, sure, Mark, I'll believe in this "unprecedented interoperability" when I can follow someone on Facebook using an open standard like RSS without having an account, and when I can have my personal Wordpress site auto-post to my personal Facebook account. I'll believe in this "unprecedented interoperability" when you're not constantly trying to get me to pay a ransom to have my posts shown to people who have said…

> when I can follow someone on Facebook using an open standard like RSS without having an account

Ahhh, being out of touch

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by CodeGlitch » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:51 PM UTC

astlouis44 wrote: post #244

CodeGlitch wrote: post #193

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Seems there could be a business for corporate style services within a meta verse now that more people are working remotely. Think meetings, conferences, etc. I know second Life did this before all the degenerates moved in...

check out https://vrland.io

Hey that even worked on my mobile phone. Cool tech demo.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by astlouis44 » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:59 PM UTC

rubicon33 wrote: post #270

Ajedi32 wrote: post #235

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Invite-only closed beta. That's probably why GP hasn't heard about it in a while.

I'm in the beta and I have played Horizon. I'm not impressed at all. The worlds are tiny and uninteresting. The color pallet is cartoony. Audio has enough delay still to be unnatural (a problem with cell phones too, btw, but made much worse when the person is standing in front of you). Their world building tools are kind of interesting, and surely were difficult to implement, but lack any real purpose or traction. Al…

Horizon is a terrible experience and won't be the MVP of the metaverse even when it's launched publicly out of beta.

Try vrland.io instead, it's a web-based social 3D/VR platform that runs everywhere with a browser which includes WebXR.

Link: https://vrland.io/lobby

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by baby » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:59 PM UTC

Vrondi wrote: post #147

I was thinking of buying an Occulus Rift, and Facebook buying Occulus is the thing that guaranteed I'd never buy one. People said it wouldn't be a problem, and now you must log in with a Facebook account in order to use your Occulus hardware. No way.

I advise creating a dummy account and buying the oculus quest 2 instead. Worth it :)

Re: Mark Zuckerberg says Facebook will turn into a ‘metaverse’

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Post by astlouis44 » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:59 PM UTC

Adrig wrote: post #262

grishka wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't wait for there to be even more ads in this world? You want them to physically follow you around? You can't wait for corporations to see your every move? No thanks. We need to fix our current internet before allowing it to permeate our lives any deeper.

Meh, I'll use the Mozilla VR OS with uBlock 2040 on it

Try vrland instead!

https://vrland.io/lobby