I'd get it if it was Goatse, but this is just regular porn. If they simply wanted to earn money from ads, serving something more milquetoast would make more sense, because now there's a rush to remove old embeds.
Why?!
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#52Genuinely curious, how does a company manage their domains after they shut down their services to prevent this kind of stuff
You could pre-pay for X years, where X is long enough to ensure you'll be dead when it expires. Edit: Seems like there's a 10 year limit in many places? I wonder if that's broad convention or an actual rule. Okay, apparently an ICANN limit for .com domains: "The expiration date of the domain registration is extended by the number of years, up to a maximum of ten years, as specified by the Registrar's requested Extend…
For me I feel like a 10 year pre-pay would be worse. I'll forget about the fact that I need to pay for it again in 2031.
Yearly at least keeps me on my toes a bit.
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#53What's the win for the new owner, do they make money from linking to the porn somehow? Sure it could also be just for lulz but there are many equally or more lulzy possibilities whereas porn often seems to be coupled with economic gain.
> What's the win for the new owner, do they make money from linking to the porn somehow?
They are the porn (the new owner is a porn firm), so, yes. I haven't seen the actual linked content, but I assume its something like free samples with directions telling people where to get more; its a move that gets porn ads placed for free in a lot of places that would never choose to allow porn ads.
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#54I'd get it if it was Goatse, but this is just regular porn. If they simply wanted to earn money from ads, serving something more milquetoast would make more sense, because now there's a rush to remove old embeds. Why?!
Now everyone know about it and vidme’s ad space is more valuable
Genius
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could pre-pay for X years, where X is long enough to ensure you'll be dead when it expires. Edit: Seems like there's a 10 year limit in many places? I wonder if that's broad convention or an actual rule. Okay, apparently an ICANN limit for .com domains: "The expiration date of the domain registration is extended by the number of years, up to a maximum of ten years, as specified by the Registrar's requested Extend…
For me I feel like a 10 year pre-pay would be worse. I'll forget about the fact that I need to pay for it again in 2031. Yearly at least keeps me on my toes a bit.
You still have to renew it yearly to keep the expiration 10 years away.
Also most registrars will send you an email when it's about to expire. If it does get dropped, there's a grave period to recover it.
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#56> Here’s (yet another) argument against using third-party embeds on your respectable website
Well, it's an argument against using embeds without having any way to validate their authenticity.
This is analogous to having a software distro (e.g. package manager) which downloads upstream tarballs or git repos without checking any hashes.
Is there a solution for this? Say you want to embed a video from some third party sites; what tools are there for ensuring that the embedding will somehow lapse if the video at that URL has been replaced or altered?
Ideally, you'd be notified if that happened. While not showing porn is good, but videos not working is bad. You can't be checking an entire site all the time for non-working external content.
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#57The weird thing about this to me is, the company or person who scooped up the domain... in order to get their plan working so quickly, wouldn't they have had to set up a site perfectly beforehand so the embeds would work as desired and then just sat there waiting, hoping, ready to hit the button to scoop up the domain at just the right time, praying nobody beat them to it?
Isn't that a lot of work for almost no gain?
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could pre-pay for X years, where X is long enough to ensure you'll be dead when it expires. Edit: Seems like there's a 10 year limit in many places? I wonder if that's broad convention or an actual rule. Okay, apparently an ICANN limit for .com domains: "The expiration date of the domain registration is extended by the number of years, up to a maximum of ten years, as specified by the Registrar's requested Extend…
Network Solutions will sell you service for 100 years. Edit: CSC, Markmonitor and similar shops will contract to keep your name available for long periods, too, but that's a bit different.
Or for the life of their company, whichever is shorter.
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#59We can't and shouldn't expect people to keep their old domains forever. We need a way for pages to be signed and hyperlinks to enforce authorship. When we link to stuff, we should have a way to say whose stuff we're linking to. It's no different from installing signed software and using trusted repositories. This is one of the reasons I created a proof-of-concept web extension that verifies links and pages using PGP.…
One idea that's been around for awhile is to identify files by their hash. That has pros and cons. The good side of that is that the file is immutable; you can't accidentally link to something else unless someone can manufacture a hash collision somehow. The down side is that if the file is corrected in some way, you don't get the fixes. In a lot of the peer-to-peer distributed hash table designs, all you need to ret…
Problem is, you have to download the entire video to check the hash. That's not how video embedding works; the client browser is just handed some link, and it obtains pieces of the video, rendering it instantly.
Basically, little segments of the video have to have a signature which is continuously validated. Or something like that.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Network Solutions will sell you service for 100 years. Edit: CSC, Markmonitor and similar shops will contract to keep your name available for long periods, too, but that's a bit different.
Or for the life of their company, whichever is shorter.
That's why I said 'sell' instead of 'provide'.