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Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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The search results counter is 12,385...is that really all (or "nearly all") of what Vid.me had for content? I mean I know it failed at dethroning Youtube, but 12,000+ videos is barely anything.

That's roughly one hour of new uploads on YouTube as of 2016.

Like everything, a great majority are junk and/or niche.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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SRI/hashing works for static content. Though it's worth mentioning it's a SUB-resource feature (images, scripts, etc.). It doesn't work for hyperlinks to other pages. Even if it did, it's a different use case. Say I link to an article by Author A that has comments in it (or even a footer, relative timestamp, sidebar, etc.). Hashing won't work as the page is always changing. I want the link to always go to Author A bu…

Good points. I would guess that for something to be implemented, it would have to be easy for browsers and API tools to check once per domain and cache the response and should probably be something that already exists and has been adopted. Maybe a page could have a meta tag or header that contains a hash of the destination sites DANE signature? Something like "targetref:somedomain.tld expectsig:39726a2fe2bb052cf00e6b…

The solution I was going for with WebVerify is more web-centric rather than domain-driven, which I think is a better fit for webpages. It can be enforced at the hyperlink-level for shared domains (like GitHub Pages, University web spaces) and works for static resources without needing to configure external resources. The only really complicated part is PGP but that can be solved with better tooling (as seen with Keybase).

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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On mine, I can pay for up to 10 years, but I think I can just pay twice and get 20. Edit: It seems to vary. Some places cite an ICANN limit of 10 years.

Most registries limit domain lifetimes to 10 years. You can't renew a domain if doing so would put the lifetime beyond 10 years -- the registry will refuse to perform the operation.

Clearly there are companies that offer extension as a service, you pay 20 times as much and they promise to extend your domain 10 times.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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We can't and shouldn't expect people to keep their old domains forever. We need a way for pages to be signed and hyperlinks to enforce authorship. When we link to stuff, we should have a way to say whose stuff we're linking to. It's no different from installing signed software and using trusted repositories. This is one of the reasons I created a proof-of-concept web extension that verifies links and pages using PGP.…

One solution is to have a unique URI per file that is independent of DNS. Decentralized file storage (e.g. FileCoin / IPFS) might serve this purpose...

Definitely but I think we need something that will work with the web we currently have while these bigger ideas are fleshed out and adopted.

Also, while IPNS covers the issue of linking to dynamic content, it's worth mentioning IPFS will have similar issues with DNS as DNSLink and similar domain-driven solutions are used to cover its usability issues (long, random URIs).

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most registries limit domain lifetimes to 10 years. You can't renew a domain if doing so would put the lifetime beyond 10 years -- the registry will refuse to perform the operation.

Clearly there are companies that offer extension as a service, you pay 20 times as much and they promise to extend your domain 10 times.

That just moves the problem though, how likely is it that that company will be around in 90 years to perform the last extension?

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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We can't and shouldn't expect people to keep their old domains forever. We need a way for pages to be signed and hyperlinks to enforce authorship. When we link to stuff, we should have a way to say whose stuff we're linking to. It's no different from installing signed software and using trusted repositories. This is one of the reasons I created a proof-of-concept web extension that verifies links and pages using PGP.…

One idea that's been around for awhile is to identify files by their hash. That has pros and cons. The good side of that is that the file is immutable; you can't accidentally link to something else unless someone can manufacture a hash collision somehow. The down side is that if the file is corrected in some way, you don't get the fixes.

In a lot of the peer-to-peer distributed hash table designs, all you need to retrieve a file is its hash.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_addressable_network

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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The trend toward embeds rather than screenshots or direct copying has long struck me as ill-conceived.

At least it's only pr0n. As a vector for malware / spyware injection, this could be even more interesting.

Relevant xkcd, of course: https://xkcd.com/1698/

h/t Elda King @ Mastodon https://weirder.earth/@eldaking/106626603001624730

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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4 years ago, Archive Team backed up "nearly all" of Vidme (according to Jason Scott). It was uploaded to the Internet Archive here https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_vidme so you can fix your vid.me URLs by pointing them to the Archive. (And you can help keep them there, too https://archive.org/donate But honestly, using the Archive more keeps the bigger donors involved, so don't feel guilty or anything. Just us…

I wish they'd been doing that when Google Video shut down. Lost a lot of good content I didn't download.
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